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1. ryandrake · 1791149394 · focus · HN ↗

   Reminds me of all the de-crufting you've always needed to do when you install Windows. Looks like we've gotten to the point on macOS too, where you need to run third party scripts on a new OS installation to gain back control of your system resources and remove unwanted crapware.

   1. 2muchcoffeeman · 1791150186 · focus · HN ↗

      On windows you got garbage like trial versions of Blah software.

      This is a fully functioning feature that people don’t like for what ever reason.

      1. 2III7 · 1791150657 · focus · HN ↗

         Fully functional feature consuming multiple gigabytes of storage and has questionable functional value. Maybe people don't want bloated AI crap on their desktops?

         1. Stitch4223 · 1791152353 · focus · HN ↗

            “Some people” arguments always hold true.

            Old classmates back in the day used to hate the 128 × 128 px icons macOS shipped. A waste of space for eye candy.

            12 GB is at most 4.68% of your Mac. Improving on Apple Intelligence is something of value, as is consumerizing local-first AI.

            We’re not talking adware here.

            1. bloqs · 1791157306 · focus · HN ↗

               4% of my disk on a computer with soldered storage hardware?

               Is the marketing really getting this good?

               1. EA-3167 · 1791157871 · focus · HN ↗

                  This is going to shock you I suspect, it seems to be something many here fail to consider in any number of circumstances: You don't represent a majority of anything. A majority of people buying Macs, a majority of people they market to, a majority of who they design for, a majority of who they product test against. In fact I'd venture to guess that you like many here represent a vocal portion of a tiny minority that are almost impossible to please without the sort of full customization of hardware and software you want. It's much easier to neglect that small market in favor of the one that prints them money, and I'm always baffled that so many don't understand that.

                  People here misunderstand just how different they are to the norm. "I want x, y, z to be free so I can modify it!" Most people buying Apple products don't, hell most people buying any phone doesn't want that, they want a smartphone that works out of the box and never fails to be a smartphone. The walled garden is largely a feature and not a bug, it's just not a feature you want, just like the aesthetics, social factors, ease of use, etc don't matter to you as much as function.

                  Most people aren't like that.

                  1. klrefg · 1791180767 · focus · HN ↗

                     > a majority of people they market to, a majority of who they design for, a majority of who they product test against

                     As if Apple is always right and knows what their users want. Sure they are more often than other companies but stuff like the touchbar and Siri itself for that matter prove that they do in fact make mistakes.

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