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1. ryandrake · 1791149394 · focus · HN ↗

   Reminds me of all the de-crufting you've always needed to do when you install Windows. Looks like we've gotten to the point on macOS too, where you need to run third party scripts on a new OS installation to gain back control of your system resources and remove unwanted crapware.

   1. 2muchcoffeeman · 1791150186 · focus · HN ↗

      On windows you got garbage like trial versions of Blah software.

      This is a fully functioning feature that people don’t like for what ever reason.

      1. Grombobulous · 1791151723 · focus · HN ↗

         Automatically downloading AI models into disk space with no user-facing way to turn it off is especially hostile considering Apple as vendor of both the OS and the hardware is the same entity that overcharges for non-upgradable SSD storage in their machines.

         1. penskymaterial · 1791152216 · focus · HN ↗

            They'll rent you more iCloud space when you fill up the SSD. That's good, holistic customer service.

            1. stingraycharles · 1791152608 · focus · HN ↗

               That doesn’t work unless you’re actually able to offload stuff from disk, which is only the case when you store stuff in your iCloud Drive / photos / etc.

               Case in point: the AI models can’t be offloaded to iCloud.

               1. penskymaterial · 1791153555 · focus · HN ↗

                  Maybe someone can explain why their SSDs, when not soldered down, are a proprietary form factor and can't be replaced with a standard M.2 device?

                  1. stingraycharles · 1791154737 · focus · HN ↗

                     I believe they have a special kind of SSD, where the controller is locked into the motherboard. This is serial locked in some form.

                     (Correct me if I’m wrong, but this is how I understand it)

                     1. odo1242 · 1791162649 · focus · HN ↗

                        It’s not actually serial locked, you can replace SSDs by desoldering and resoldering a NAND chip. But basically their SSD controller is integrated into the M-series chips (mostly because cheaper, less connectors to manufacture). But it’s a very specialized process

                        1. stingraycharles · 1791163105 · focus · HN ↗

                           I think most consumers would happily pay a bit extra for these controllers if it meant that they could manually upgrade their SSDs. I can’t help but have the feeling that it’s also quite convenient for Apple that all this stuff is effectively non-replaceable / upgradable.

                           I don’t think the benefits are the same as with their RAM being part of their SoC, as that gives them real speed improvements, right?

                           1. floydnoel · 1791166986 · focus · HN ↗

                              I disagree. I think 90% or more wouldn't care.

                              1. Barbing · 1791173936 · focus · HN ↗

                                 Indeed,

                                 > manually upgrade

                                 or “average Apple customer”, pick one

                                 btw something beautiful about the YouTube videos of shops in China doing those SSD deletes with the power tools

                              2. ascorbic · 1791178542 · focus · HN ↗

                                 I'd be amazed if even 1% care

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