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<a href="https://www.jeremyreimer.com/rockets-item.lsp?f=true&p=272" rel="nofollow">https://www.jeremyreimer.com/rockets-item.lsp?f=true&p=272
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Like Dvorak and others, twas just a bit of entertainment, until it wasn't.
Thoroughly enjoyed his works (warts and all), learned a few things, and remain deeply disappointed that NerdTV didn't become a thing.
RIP
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But it's wild to get involved in a Kickstarter involving the star of Plane Crazy. When I watched Kickstarters fail and the people who started them grow increasingly unstable, I would always think about Plane Crazy.
Too bad that it didn't get a lot of distribution; there's a link on this HN thread pointing to a copy on youtube that was taped off PBS in Chicago, and I literally saw it on WTTW in Chicago. I don't know where it could really be marketed - it might be great to reedit it into a feature.
But its theme is that Cringely would bite off more than he can chew during what one might not recognize as a mania. You would see this pattern in almost everything he did, unless he was lucky enough to get it right on the first try.
1) he would make a lot of promises based on a dream of accomplishing something that no one had ever done before,
2) experts he would consult would tell him that they didn't think it was possible, but that they'd be happy to be surprised,
3) as the problems would pile up and he would gradually come to the realization that he was going to fail, he would first look at those problems as interesting challenges,
4) improvise inadequate solutions to show he could meet those challenges,
5) ignore the experts who criticize those inadequate solutions, and that tell him that these were the problems that made them think this was impossible in the first place,
6) mock and attack the experts who criticized his inadequate solutions (likely as stuck in the past or jealous of a non-expert invading their turf),
7) then start to conceal new and compounding problems,
8) then fully and knowingly lie about the problems (likely justified to himself as simply buying time for one fix he's obsessing upon to work),
9) then start to blame people who don't believe those lies for inadequately supporting him (he just needs a little bit more time),
10) then attack those people - his investors, friends and family (I just need another day or two!),
11) then attack himself for being low enough to attack the people who believe in him and love him,
12) then consider suicide.
Have there been any "Plane Crazy"-style documentaries about any of the spectacular Kickstarter failures?
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<a href="https://www.cringely.com/bout-bob/" rel="nofollow">https://www.cringely.com/bout-bob/
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as a non-pure engineer: I, Cringely helped me so much
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He belongs to the old Silicon Valley. I wasn't there in those days and have never lived there, but I miss it.
It was back when SV was genuinely creative and largely positive in its attitude toward people and the future. It emerged from the ethos of places like SRI's "augmented human intelligence" lab and things like the Whole Earth Catalog and the Homebrew Computer Club.
Of course I'm well aware of the other origin story, the one that goes back to WWII and the defense industry. They're both true in different ways, but I think the ideas I mentioned above were the ones that came to dominate for a while.
I'd say until the mid-late 2000s.
I have this goofy speculation that the old Silicon Valley more or less went bankrupt in the dot.com crash in 2001. After that it was bought out and taken over by different interests with different goals. Probably bullshit, but it'd make a good novel plot or something.
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georgemcbay · · focus · HN ↗
I lived in (Los Gatos for a while) and around (Marin County for a while) SV during parts of the mid to late 1990s and the culture there was very tech focused. Idealist 80s-90s hacker culture kids mixed with progressive graybeard types. Lots of people who learned how to code on their own using C64s or Apple IIs as teens and followed that into tech careers.
Toward the end of the dot-com boom and especially after it that culture got washed away by the finance bro types who had no particular love for tech but for the fact that everyone then saw it as the way to get rich.
I'm sure there was a different SV before my time there, and probably also somewhat parallel to my time there (just in different bubbles) but the place that I imagine that you imagine did exist for a while.
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Damn those were good days.
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Watching him try (and fail) to build a composite airplane says so much about the allure of modern techniques (I won't spoil the end, but old-school gets the last laugh). I've been less than enthusiastic about modern composites ever since seeing this show.
Bob's attempt (and short temper) reveals a good deal of hubris on his part.
The documentary is a fascinating failure and a masterclass in attempting to salvage a show when the whole premise for the show completely collapses.
[1] <a href="https://youtu.be/FSNzF-KSGiw" rel="nofollow">https://youtu.be/FSNzF-KSGiw
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But the plane did fly.
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The top comment lays it out as it is, lmao. And it was far more than 30 days as well.
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Wouldn't HN be one of the most likely places?
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I found a better rip of the documentary midway through this archive.org upload of off-air PBS recordings from North Carolina: <a href="https://archive.org/details/unc-tv-1997-vhs-720p-60" rel="nofollow">https://archive.org/details/unc-tv-1997-vhs-720p-60 . It took like an hour to download and the tape hiss was pretty bad, so I ran it through Final Cut Pro's audio denoising filter and reuploaded it to Youtube here: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rqxU4nnLkeA" rel="nofollow">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rqxU4nnLkeA
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I hope Leo Laporte and Steve Gibson cover his passing, they knew him.
twit dot tv
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I was an avid listener of TWiT for years.
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BTW, there are 2 "Robert X. Cringely", one owned by InfoWorld, one owned by Mark Stephens.
<a href="https://www.wired.com/1998/12/cringely/" rel="nofollow">https://www.wired.com/1998/12/cringely/
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Did an amazing job documenting the computer revolution and the internet revolution.
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There was a lot of that, last century. Made being an Apple developer difficult. We would suffer a constant barrage of abuse (the current Apple hate is almost quaint, compared to that).
I enjoyed his writing, but there was always a lot of showmanship and posturing, so it was hard to take seriously.
I'm quite sad to hear of his personal travails.
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>...the WRT54G with Sveasoft firmware is all you need to become your cul de sac's wireless ISP. Going further, if a bunch of your friends in town had similarly configured WRT54Gs, they could seamlessly work together and put out of business your local telephone company.
<a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20040608142623/http://www.pbs.org/cringely/pulpit/pulpit20040527.html" rel="nofollow">https://web.archive.org/web/20040608142623/http://www.pbs.or...
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Just software engineer. More concretely, our team is just improving product B so it’s more appealing to current users of product A.
As for looking for work, we’re not currently hiring, but Autodesk in general is always hiring, I’d recommend just searching “Autodesk jobs”. Best of luck to you!
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It's especially tragic for his family as Bob had announced that his son Cole, aged 21, had passed away back in April. Condolences to all those who knew Mark, Cole, and their loved ones. RIP.
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I have rewatched this movie so many times and it was definitely one of the most formative movies for me as well.
(basically because every afternoon or most afternoon if there was no satellite connection I think, I would watch the movie and this was one of the only movies within the pen drives that I had I think.)
When I was in 5-6th grade, I even gave a speech in class about Steve jobs to one of the subjects which was more about personal development/personal trainer. The sir actually used to call me steve jobs afterwards for sometime whenever I used to meet him.
Man do I love pirates of the silicon valley, I really like this song[0]
and random trivia about this song, but the director of the movie even commented on this song (as the video is actually named: "What is the name of this music?") and it turns out that this is an unnamed song.
> As well as using a lot of 70's & 80's classic rock and roll classics appropriate to the era when Jobs and Woz were starting Apple, we also went for "sound-alikes" (for the Ella Fitzgerald number) and created some of our own music. This piece is one of those creations. There is no name for it that I'm aware of.
> Martyn Burke
> Director-Pirates of Silicon Valley
[0]: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wm7btLayRZ4" rel="nofollow">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wm7btLayRZ4
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<a href="https://www.cringely.com/2026/05/27/where-the-heck-have-i-been-all-this-time/" rel="nofollow">https://www.cringely.com/2026/05/27/where-the-heck-have-i-be...
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<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_X._Cringely" rel="nofollow">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_X._Cringely
JUST updated. I had 8 minutes left to edit this.Died October 3, 2026 (aged 73)
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HN disables edits after one hour, which, in a world of "nothing but change," can make one look mighty foolish, and I have in the past asked for a post to be removed.
I am just puzzled why anyone would downvote a Wikipedia link. Maybe it's because Earth's magnetic poles are reversing. Maybe not.
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Was there some reason to believe the post was fake? Who gains from faking the death of a (now) somewhat obscure technology writer who was most active decades ago? Just going and saying "nobody has updated this Wikipedia page yet oh nevermind now they have" is a really pro forma fact check for something that it doesn't seem like there was any particular reason to doubt in the first place.
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Hadn't heard from him in years. Then he posted that he was going to start writing again and I was so very glad to hear it... And now...
The dude was to me what tech journalism was. Between Cringely and Dvorak leaving us, we're losing the old guard. I'm bummed.
<a href="https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48236501">https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48236501
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<a href="https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ACt6xsMt5Uk" rel="nofollow">https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ACt6xsMt5Uk
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(Just realized I've never read the 1996 update/revision. Adding it to the top of my list.)
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Listening to Steve talk about the benefits of object oriented programming is something else
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Slashdot did experiment a little with Jon Katz, most notably his 'Voices from the Hellmouth' series, but he was never really aiming to sound the same note of wry detachment as those magazine greats.
It's a pity - I'd rather read a monthly column of that sort than any amount of pointless bickering on Twitter.
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I see the same effect all the time in fiction. Innovative challenging books don't get published (or even picked up by agents), because the publishing industry is run by the kind of people who are frightened and offended by such books. Which means the audience for those books become only those lucky enough to be exposed to older, denser, more innovative fiction - which invariably shrinks.
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It was a different time.
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He appears to be fine, and just published Ansible® 471: <a href="https://news.ansible.uk/a471.html" rel="nofollow">https://news.ansible.uk/a471.html
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Here's a fun clip. I think this company is the one which eventually became the one behind the excite search engine
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He was only in his early 70’s.
This hits hard. Bob meant a lot to me I exchanged a lot of emails with him back in the 1990s.
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RIP
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I used to read his articles back a decade ago. I really enjoyed them. This quote from the article resonated with me. It’s a sobering feeling having dedicated a career to the field to struggle keeping up.
RIP. He seemed to face a lot of struggles both physically and emotionally towards the end of his life.
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<a href="https://ai.stanford.edu/" rel="nofollow">https://ai.stanford.edu/
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<a href="https://www.jeremyreimer.com/rockets-item.lsp?f=true&p=272" rel="nofollow">https://www.jeremyreimer.com/rockets-item.lsp?f=true&p=272 makes it sound like the "crazy shit over the last few years" wasn't rue.
The post makes a strong case that the cataracts story and the losing his house story were false, among others.
If you're wondering why someone would make things like this up, it appears that they were cover stories for his Mineserver Kickstarter never shipping despite him saying "[i]n terms of development, this project was almost finished before the Kickstarter campaign began", "[a]ll these Mineservers will ship this week. Software is complete and SD cards are being duplicated. T-shirts are being printed every night", etc.
If it sounds unbelievable that someone would make these things up to have something to blame for a failed kickstarter, I recommend reading the post. The evidence against the house burning down is hard to argue with (later Google Maps/Street View imaging shows no apparent damage, in a later post he accidentally revealed that he used the exact laptop that he said he replaced because it was lost in the fire) and there's even stronger evidence that a number of his other claims are fabricated.
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That sounds liked LinkedIn speak.
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coldtea · · focus · HN ↗
There's no singular "right way to think" that applies in all cases. In many cases thinking of "radical alternatives" can be a bad idea (think people falling for "alternative medicine" stuff). Or some idiot coming up with shitty "radical alternatives" because they can't accept some specific setup or status quo is better - also related to the N.I.H. mindset in software.
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> Look at his last few blog posts, outlining a radical alternative to LLMs. Read closely, and at the heart of that idea we find "assume enterprise search".
I found the patent his company uses (<a href="https://patents.google.com/patent/US20250259069A1" rel="nofollow">https://patents.google.com/patent/US20250259069A1). I always have trouble reading patents, but as far as I can tell it's basically a wrapper around commodity LLMs. The reliability improvements come from prompting the LLM to only source its data from an external database that you provide rather than from whatever it was trained on, and from prompting multiple LLMs simultaneously then doing semantic analysis on the responses to make sure they all agree. I imagine that doing this would probably reduce hallucinations, but there's no hard constraint to prevent them entirely and I'm not sure what the moat is.
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However, he was also ripping people off and making up stuff: <a href="https://www.jeremyreimer.com/rockets-item.lsp?f=true&p=272" rel="nofollow">https://www.jeremyreimer.com/rockets-item.lsp?f=true&p=272
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tuna74 · · focus · HN ↗
It is OK to fail. It is not OK to continuously lye to people who have provided you with money (or anyone else for that matter).
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Similar to the mineserver, I lost $65 on this thing as it went quiet in 2020. It seemed like they were moving forwards but a few dud manufacturing runs combined with Covid problems just meant the whole project just folded.
<a href="https://www.crowdsupply.com/eoma68/micro-desktop" rel="nofollow">https://www.crowdsupply.com/eoma68/micro-desktop
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<a href="https://www.cringely.com/2026/07/16/the-auditors-opinion/" rel="nofollow">https://www.cringely.com/2026/07/16/the-auditors-opinion/
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Early employee at Apple who was offered to be paid in stock. He “held out for the cash”.
I really like the triumph of the nerds series. Getting bill Gates, Balmer, Jobs and those IBMers to explain how it all came together and how MS who didn’t have an OS ended up getting one to sell to IBM.
The transcripts are a good
<a href="https://www.pbs.org/nerds/transcript.html" rel="nofollow">https://www.pbs.org/nerds/transcript.html
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But yeah..
“well for a short time I was an employee of Apple Computer, employee number 12 and one day I helped move materials out of this garage. At the time Steve Jobs said that the company was short of loot so he offered to pay me in company shares, but I held out for the money - my mother still reminds me of that incident.”
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Mark Stephens does not appear anywhere in this list, nor have any other early employees confirmed that he worked there.
Yes, this might have just been a small slip-up on Cringely's part, but the trouble is that he continued to make claims about being employed by Apple that were clearly fabricated. For example, Cringely claimed to have invented the Lisa's trash can icon in this clip: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=06M64l7pPIk&t=373s" rel="nofollow">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=06M64l7pPIk&t=373s but if you read about the same story from other Apple employees, they don't mention him at all: <a href="https://folklore.org/Rosings_Rascals.html" rel="nofollow">https://folklore.org/Rosings_Rascals.html
These "tall tales" start to add up, and it becomes very hard to give him the benefit of the doubt.
Cringely was a great writer, a great documentarian, and really wonderful at finding the human stories behind the giants of personal computer companies. Unfortunately, he also often made up stories about himself that were later found to be untrue. He didn't need to do this, because his work stood on its own. It was just a flaw in his personality.
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You might already know this because you seem to know a lot about him, but when I was researching the Lisa claim you brought up I found a CHM oral history with Dan'l Lewin (<a href="https://archive.computerhistory.org/resources/access/text/2016/04/102740097-05-01-acc.pdf" rel="nofollow">https://archive.computerhistory.org/resources/access/text/20...), where page 19 mentions that Cringely was married to Ellen Nold while she was working on the Lisa project. Maybe that's how he got some of his anecdotes about Apple in the early 80s.
I agree that his tendency to exaggerate his own past is unfortunate but doesn't outweigh all the great journalism he's done.
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<a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20001015151303/http://www.pbs.org/cringely/pulpit/pulpit20000525.html" rel="nofollow">https://web.archive.org/web/20001015151303/http://www.pbs.or...
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John Dvorak passed July 20, 2026 Mark Stephens/Robert X. Cringely October 3, 2026
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Robert X Bishop
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PBS website: He wrote a column that their site no longer hosts, but the Wayback Machine has it snapshotted frequently, including just after his final submission for the outlet in 2008: <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20081223220604/http://www.pbs.org/cringely/" rel="nofollow">https://web.archive.org/web/20081223220604/http://www.pbs.or...
NerdTV: In an era of nascent web video, he produced long-form video interviews with tech types, and clipped what might now be called "Shorts/Tiktoks" from the conversations, pulling out the of "the juicy bit" and "the nerdy bit". <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NerdTV" rel="nofollow">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NerdTV (h/t to u/Keyframe)
And obliquely, Cringely's columns or videos were the first place I recall hearing about foveated approaches to video compression for streaming. I thought it sounded like a terrible idea, but I guess Valve delivered, 20 years on, using the technique to good effect with the Steam Frame. Chalk one up for Cringely; RIP.
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<a href="https://blog.gardeviance.org/2015/03/on-pioneers-settlers-town-planners-and.html" rel="nofollow">https://blog.gardeviance.org/2015/03/on-pioneers-settlers-to...
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A great a free thinker.
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Unfortunately, the site became more difficult to read in later years when it turned out that a lot of what he was saying was evidently false. Even more so when he switched over to AI-generated content.
Still, Triumph is an amazing documentary that I’ve watched many, many times.
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In 2012, I saw a screening of _Steve Jobs: The Lost Interview_[1] in San Francisco when it was released in theaters, and subsequently bought the DVD a few years ago. Highly recommend it if you like _Triumph of the Nerds_.
RIP Bob
[1]: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Jobs%3A_The_Lost_Interview" rel="nofollow">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Jobs%3A_The_Lost_Intervi...
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