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Car is a smartphone on wheels. Here's who's listening

208 points · 139 comments · longhaul

  1. recursivedoubts · · focus · HN ↗
    It has been demonstrated repeatedly that modern cars can be remotely hijacked and controlled as well. We really do live in a dystopia.
    1. WalterGR · · focus · HN ↗
      That would be quite shocking. Links?
      1. OptionOfT · · focus · HN ↗
        Old article: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.wired.com&#x2F;2015&#x2F;07&#x2F;hackers-remotely-kill-jeep-highway&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.wired.com&#x2F;2015&#x2F;07&#x2F;hackers-remotely-kill-jeep-hig...

        Fast forward to today: getting access to the canbus (e.g. via headlights) allow you to steal the car: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.theregister.com&#x2F;security&#x2F;2023&#x2F;04&#x2F;06&#x2F;how-thieves-steal-cars-using-vehicle-can-bus&#x2F;1028617" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.theregister.com&#x2F;security&#x2F;2023&#x2F;04&#x2F;06&#x2F;how-thieves-...

        Given the integration of these modules, is it that weird that you could send signals the other way?

        1. kube-system · · focus · HN ↗
          &gt; Given the integration of these modules, is it that weird that you could send signals the other way?

          No, but there are simple solutions to this: a firewall, which is how this has been fixed on some cars.

          1. recursivedoubts · · focus · HN ↗
            You trust car makers to get that right?

            You trust state actors to not force them to not get it right?

            1. kube-system · · focus · HN ↗
              I don&#x27;t trust any of them -- I simply commented on the fact that it is a solvable problem.
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