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Car is a smartphone on wheels. Here's who's listening

208 points · 139 comments · longhaul

recursivedoubts · 1791130583 · focus · HN ↗
It has been demonstrated repeatedly that modern cars can be remotely hijacked and controlled as well. We really do live in a dystopia.
1. WalterGR · 1791132876 · focus · HN ↗
  That would be quite shocking. Links?
  1. OptionOfT · 1791133305 · focus · HN ↗
    Old article: <a href="https://www.wired.com/2015/07/hackers-remotely-kill-jeep-highway/" rel="nofollow">https://www.wired.com/2015/07/hackers-remotely-kill-jeep-hig...
    Fast forward to today: getting access to the canbus (e.g. via headlights) allow you to steal the car: <a href="https://www.theregister.com/security/2023/04/06/how-thieves-steal-cars-using-vehicle-can-bus/1028617" rel="nofollow">https://www.theregister.com/security/2023/04/06/how-thieves-...
    Given the integration of these modules, is it that weird that you could send signals the other way?
    kube-system · 1791140197 · focus · HN ↗
    > Given the integration of these modules, is it that weird that you could send signals the other way?
    No, but there are simple solutions to this: a firewall, which is how this has been fixed on some cars.
    recursivedoubts · 1791159692 · focus · HN ↗
    You trust car makers to get that right?
    You trust state actors to not force them to not get it right?
    kube-system · 1791164011 · focus · HN ↗
    I don't trust any of them -- I simply commented on the fact that it is a solvable problem.

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