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Dots: Always-on agents

767 points · 647 comments · alvis

  1. wxw · · focus · HN ↗
    The lines between Codex, ChatGPT Work, and Dots is getting a bit blurry to me. I think the target should be a remote agent(s) in its own sandbox with long memory, and all three are heading in that direction so why have the distinctions?

    Unless Dots is dramatically more capable than Muse, I'm also more bullish on Muse than Dots. I think Muse is a better consumer play because it can be forever subsidized by Meta ads and find distribution in family of apps while Dots is in a weird place between consumer & professional. From the release, it also sounds like you'll have to pay per Dot at some point which doesn't sound appealing.

    1. rolosa · · focus · HN ↗
      Muse is $0/$16/$80 vs Dot being $100/$200/$500 so yeah I don't think Dot is meant for casuals.
      1. LollipopYakuza · · focus · HN ↗
        Is it really about what it offers, or about how each plan are subsidized by Meta and OpenAI?
        1. abirch · · focus · HN ↗
          Meta is probably making money off of Muse. They can sell ads with the information that they glean.
          1. vineyardmike · · focus · HN ↗
            They’ve claimed they’re not using the data for ads… for now
            1. espadrine · · focus · HN ↗
              There may be a reason that I cannot access it from the EU. There, they cannot repurpose data they swallowed for another use without consent.
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