It's actually just the elite class of mafioso that have weasled their way into power. Israel is convenient for them to support, as amongst other things they can test weapons on the population there. But "Israel secretly controlling everything" is a cute narrative for profoundly naive people of limited intelligence (on the right and left). Get rid of Israel and kill all the Jews - you'll still have the same class of people controlling everything, but with less leverage in the middle east (if Israel goes to the Muslims and not the Christian evangelicals or some secular corporate group, in which case business as usual). Having a scapegoat makes the world a nice easy place to understand, and more importantly makes people easy to control.
Why do you need "leverage" in the Middle East? Haven't they suffered enough since ~WWI colonization (including Africa and India and the surrounding regions)?
I haven't seen any serious circles and discussions that use israel as a scapegoat for every issue that arises, but it is also naive to deny what we see in front of our eyes and hear with our ears first hand from their own ministers; it's more clear now than ever.
Frankly I don't care about whether or not they're colonized. Ottomans colonized the entire Mid East before, and Persia had its empire mostly in the same borders as today; that's just how the region works. I care that the US is doing things against its own interest.
I meant it's against US interests to support Israel. We're spending insane amounts of money and diplomatic capital for very little in return. It doesn't help against any of our serious enemies like Russia. It's not even a colony because it's not under US control like Venezuela is.
Oh please, you can't honestly believe that the "The West" (primarily the US elites - and European- that essentially own democracy at this point) care about suffering? It's about winning and control of resources. Israel is committing war crimes - but that's business as usual. There are absolutely people that think Israel is essentially secretly controlling the world - and yes, they are stupid, and yes their stupidity is either encouraged or a "happy accident". Although, Israel has it's own agenda (removal of all power of the Palestinian Muslim population) and survival as a state, it serves it's purpose as a tool for the above mentioned elite and the states they use (the US primarily) to further their agenda (which is basically to stay in power indefinitely and continue to do whatever they want to do without any reprucussions).
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I am curious what did the world gain from this?
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I haven't seen any serious circles and discussions that use israel as a scapegoat for every issue that arises, but it is also naive to deny what we see in front of our eyes and hear with our ears first hand from their own ministers; it's more clear now than ever.
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Is it against the interest of the US to cease supporting foreign entities and commit war crimes in the region?
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One can argue it's having negative return. Hopefully more Americans wake up and vote to stop burning their taxes.
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Yep, that's my point. Many of us knew it from before, but the events of the past few years have really made the masks fall for all to see.