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ADHD, autism or complex trauma? [pdf]

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  1. E-Reverance · · focus · HN ↗
    > A diagnosis of ADHD or autism in adulthood often leads to incredible relief and grief in processing all the moments of being blamed and shamed for what was assumed to be a lack of effort, laziness and/or defiance.

    This is definitely a factor for me when I tried to get diagnosed (which failed lol), because my parents whom caused my trauma would obviously refuse to blame themselves for my emotionally stunted development

    1. exe34 · · focus · HN ↗
      I simply wrote to the psychiatrist a note that whatever my parents say, they'll make themselves look good, and therefore will paint a rosy childhood for me. I guess it also helped that my then partner was there and told her of how my parents told a "funny story" that made his parents gasp in horror.
      1. digitaltrees · · focus · HN ↗
        What was the funny story.
        1. exe34 · · focus · HN ↗
          It was the story of how my brother was asked at school to draw a picture of his last birthday when he was about 5ish and drew stick figures carrying building material because we were building something in the yard and my parents forgot his birthday.
          1. mootothemax · · focus · HN ↗
            Good grief. I read your comment and … the levels of parental neglect wrapped up in your single story are overwhelming me.

            I’m sure you don’t need validation from random internet strangers, but as one with a similar enough childhood, I wanted to share that it’s a thoroughly shit club to be in.

            1. jonathanlydall · · focus · HN ↗
              Just an anecdote, but my mother forgot my 11th (I think) birthday, I’m 44 now and I think in just the last year or two she mentioned again she still feels guilty about it.

              In her defense, I had my birthday party just a few days before and it was an unusual year in that school had started by (maybe even on) my birthday.

              I remember feeling a bit disappointed on the day, but certainly not distraught or traumatised. I also never found myself randomly thinking about the incident after except for when my mom mentions it or from stories like this.

              My point is that it depends on the person on how big a deal it was. Also, perhaps the parents do feel guilty about it, hence sometimes sharing it as a “funny story”, but I wouldn’t know.

              My own 6 year old child seems to be neurodivergent (I suspect I am too) and is struggling a bit with pre-school, even now at a bridging school.

              We first had to confront it about 2 years ago when the highly regarded mainstream school she was at said she would have to repeat the year.

              At least for me as a parent, the possibility that my child won’t grow up to be a self sufficient is terrifying, so it was quite a bit to come to terms with.

              Fortunately we weren't in denial and she’s getting exceptional assistance, but some parents definitely find themselves in denial when confronted with this situation.

              1. thrixton · · focus · HN ↗
                It does depend a lot on the person, but it also depends on the parents. If they acknowledge it and attempt to make it right, that's one thing. However, if they just brush over it and don't acknowledge the child's loss, then it's a totally different case.
                1. mootothemax · · focus · HN ↗
                  Honestly - and I hope this didn’t happen to you - it takes a surprising level of indifference for kids to pick up a “this is wrong” signal.

                  I’m not going to speak for anyone else, but if I forget a thing and “fixing” it is as simple as saying sorry and doing it the next day, I’ll do it. And I will keep doing it on a loop if need be _because I care_.

                  And that’s often the easy sign for this stuff. Did your parents forget and _not even try_ to show that they care?

                  It’s the sheer indifferent callousness that stands out starkest to me. It doesn’t take much, I’ve found, for people to state outright “you’re wrong to expect me to care about you.”

              2. mootothemax · · focus · HN ↗
                Oh hey! I’m the same age as you, and while my kids are a bit older, they’re neurodivergent too. You didn’t ask for advice, and I won’t

                I will say that my eldest, and otherwise wonderful and engaging daughter is having a hell of a time at her school right now, and schools and SEN provision and, honestly, competence, are highly variable, and I’ve been surprised at how large the differences can be.

              3. mootothemax · · focus · HN ↗
                I also wanted to add: wow, as a parent that sounds rough. You’re doing better for her than you think you are.
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