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An Update on Orion for Linux and Windows

187 points · 117 comments · pentagrama

  1. RandomGerm4n · · focus · HN ↗
    I've never understood what niche Orion is supposed to fill. People who value privacy would be more likely to use an open-source browser. Firefox and Brave already serve that purpose. Maybe it's less important to Mac users, but on Linux, a proprietary browser is a major deal-breaker for most people. Plus, it's less convenient if the browser isn't simply included in the repository as a result. Orion should have been developed as open source from the start, with community involvement. Kagi can still benefit from this, though, by serving as the default search engine in exchange for funding the development, and by having the Kagi Assistant directly integrated into the platform.
    1. shakow · · focus · HN ↗
      > I've never understood what niche Orion is supposed to fill

      For me, as battery-efficient as Safari, but with better chrome and access to ffox extensions ecosystem.

      1. jorvi · · focus · HN ↗
        Chromium-based browsers actually have had better battery life than Safari for 2 years (!) now[0]. And perform better. Which is a real egg on Apple's face.

        The only reason to use Safari is because you're knee-deep in the Apple ecosystem, otherwise something like Chrome, Edge or Brave just makes more sense.

        [0]<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;birchtree.me&#x2F;blog&#x2F;everyone-says-chrome-devastates-mac-battery-life-but-does-it-i-tested-for-36-hours-to-find-out&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;birchtree.me&#x2F;blog&#x2F;everyone-says-chrome-devastates-ma...

        1. sosborn · · focus · HN ↗
          &gt; But this is not to tell every Safari user that they are irrational or wrong in any way for using Safari over Chrome (or any other browser, for that matter). Does Safari use more battery than Chrome? In these tasks it sure seems to, but it’s not by a massive amount, potentially costing you about 0.5% of your battery life every hour. Is that enough for you to switch browsers if you prefer Safari’s UI or reliability or privacy options? I suspect not.
          1. jorvi · · focus · HN ↗
            The point is moreso that Chrome being a battery hog is a myth.

            Safari is less private than Brave and does not have the breadth of extension that Chromium browsers (and Firefox) do. So again, the only reason to really choose Safari is if you&#x27;re completely in the Apple ecosystem.

            1. anonreplier · · focus · HN ↗
              I suspect a lot of users don&#x27;t care about Chrome&#x27;s (hobbled) extensions
              1. lern_too_spel · · focus · HN ↗
                Safari&#x27;s extensions are hobbled more than Chrome&#x27;s and have been since 2018.
        2. shakow · · focus · HN ↗
          That&#x27;s interesting, because that has not been my experience at all – for my usage, Orion empirically clearly buries Vivaldi &amp; Firefox.

          Granted, I used Vivaldi rather than Chromium, but I don&#x27;t expect it to have such a noticeable difference w.r.t. Chrome.

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