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ICC judge on what U.S. sanctions mean for her and global courts

229 points · 173 comments · rbanffy

  1. msdz · · focus · HN ↗
    Regardless of what one personally thinks about the ICC, this isn’t a good look for neither the US nor Europe.

    For the U.S., because sanctioning an “unpleasant”, but in essence harmless individual (geopolitically speaking) is ridiculous. Falling victim to de-banking alone can really ruin one’s life.

    And for the EU, because it once again showcases the dependence on U.S. systems for just about anything tech-related in everyday life and work.

    1. MSFT_Edging · · focus · HN ↗
      > Falling victim to de-banking alone

      This is especially ironic given how many Trump supporters had "de-banking" as their main issue.

      IIRC most of them were "debanked" due to crypto fraud or other financial crimes.

      1. DaSHacka · · focus · HN ↗
        > IIRC most of them were "debanked" due to crypto fraud or other financial crimes.

        How would you even know this? Was there a poll done across every Trump supporter where they admitted to committing financial fraud? Do you mean to say Trump's 'pundits' and not his 'supporters'?

        Also, the majority of pushback to debanking that I've seen among MAGA types I know IRL is more centered around the 2022 trucker protests and the debatably unjust reaction from the Canadian government.

        1. MSFT_Edging · · focus · HN ↗
          It was a loud handful of guys, not a broad swath of vaguely republican types getting debanked.
      2. throwawayfifo · · focus · HN ↗
        This is doubly "ironic" considering the left was all for debanking right-wing dissenters (Freedom Convoy) when they were in power.
        1. MSFT_Edging · · focus · HN ↗
          What was the "freedom convoy" dissenting from?

          Vaccine mandates, for a virus that was doing multiple 9/11's daily, by a bunch of guys who sit in their trucks all day.

          Change your diaper, dude.

      3. mindslight · · focus · HN ↗
        The entire destructionist movement is based around channeling frustrations on very real issues into mere ways of making money for Dear Leader. When you zoom in, even core issues like immigration reform fit the pattern - still giving a pass to the major employers of illegal labor, modulo the policy-performative vice signalling of torture camps. Grumpism is effectively just one big arbitrage of ideals. In a sane world, the people who care most about the issues "championed" by the destructionists would be the loudest critics of them, as it's their political capital that is being destroyed! But apparently most of them are too busy "winning" to perform one iota of self-reflection.
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