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Supabase is acquiring Turso

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  1. f311a · · focus · HN ↗
    I hope they will put more resources into fixing issues. I remember there were multiple attempts to add it to ClickBench, but each time new bugs were found.

    It should not be X times slower than SQLite.

    <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;ClickHouse&#x2F;ClickBench&#x2F;issues&#x2F;336" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;ClickHouse&#x2F;ClickBench&#x2F;issues&#x2F;336

    <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;ClickHouse&#x2F;ClickBench&#x2F;pull&#x2F;1009" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;ClickHouse&#x2F;ClickBench&#x2F;pull&#x2F;1009

    1. menaerus · · focus · HN ↗
      On 22nd of July

      &gt; It was loading the data for a week already, and the speed of loading data has dropped to 4 kilobytes per second, and it will take years to load the dataset.

      And then on 2nd of August

      &gt; It loaded maybe 1% of the data so far.

      And then one year after

      &gt; I didn&#x27;t load the data after a year. &gt; I tried it with the fsync removed, but even then it does not work

      Ok, I find this more entertaining than I should and almost unbelievable. I know that this codebase was heavily written by LLMs but the execution can&#x27;t be this bad?

      What am I missing and why would Supabase buy the product which can&#x27;t even load the dataset properly?

      1. ambicapter · · focus · HN ↗
        Also hilarious that the rebuttal comment after a year had passed was &quot;why are you using this release which is a year old&quot;
        1. gpm · · focus · HN ↗
          That rebuttal comment was posted in response to a comment that was 4 days old, not a year old.
      2. gpm · · focus · HN ↗
        You&#x27;re looking at a software project months after its inception, saying it didn&#x27;t work well then, and then asking why someone would buy it well over a year later...
        1. menaerus · · focus · HN ↗
          1st commit of the project was in August 2023 so not quite few months old. And the performance problem according to <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;ClickHouse&#x2F;ClickBench&#x2F;pull&#x2F;1159" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;ClickHouse&#x2F;ClickBench&#x2F;pull&#x2F;1159 has not been yet solved.

          So, I think my curiosity still stands.

          1. gpm · · focus · HN ↗
            &gt; 1st commit of the project was in August 2023

            Yeah, ok, I took the date from [1] but you&#x27;re right the project did in some sense exist before then.

            [1] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;turso.tech&#x2F;blog&#x2F;we-will-rewrite-sqlite-and-we-are-going-all-in" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;turso.tech&#x2F;blog&#x2F;we-will-rewrite-sqlite-and-we-are-go...

    2. dangoodmanUT · · focus · HN ↗
      &gt; Add Turso (it is unbelievably slow) (it also does not work)

      Ah Alexey, never change

      1. f311a · · focus · HN ↗
        Another PR:

        &gt; Turso - it is ridiculously slow, can&#x27;t believe that: revert the single-transaction import, cap per-query wall-clock

    3. penberg · · focus · HN ↗
      We&#x27;re aware of your woes with ClickBench. The first time you added it I even explicitly told you that it was way too early to even try that. The attempt you did recently was fair, but it&#x27;s all in the ingestion before the benchmark, and does not show up anywhere, so we ended up spending time on this instead:

      <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;turso.tech&#x2F;blog&#x2F;turso-0.8.0" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;turso.tech&#x2F;blog&#x2F;turso-0.8.0

      In any case, this is on our radar and we do intend to improve it but not the highest priority right now.

      1. rendaw · · focus · HN ↗
        Why do you think f311a is alexey?
        1. hitekker · · focus · HN ↗
          I also want to know that; it&#x27;s a weird accusation.

          Penberg&#x27;s earlier reply said f311a was (paraphrased) &quot;talking crap on the internet&quot; but it looks like they&#x27;ve edited out the cussing.

        2. f311a · · focus · HN ↗
          I&#x27;m not affiliated in any way.
    4. egorfine · · focus · HN ↗
      I hope they don&#x27;t. Of the many projects in the world, SQLite is one of the very top in the list of &quot;do not rewrite&quot;.
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