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1. PunchyHamster · 1790986642 · focus · HN ↗

   Weird to buy machine with company actively hostile to anything open to run open stuff

   1. inventor7777 · 1790988088 · focus · HN ↗

      Is Apple taking steps to purposefully blocking open stuff, or are they just pointedly ignoring it and continuing to develop new hardware? I am genuinely asking, I don't know myself.

      edit: speaking mostly about macOS here, mobile OSes are much more locked down

      1. lmz · 1790988419 · focus · HN ↗

         The fact that they still allow this would point towards the latter. They are quite capable of locking it down like they do the iPhones.

         1. londons_explore · 1790990190 · focus · HN ↗

            And I suspect they will lock it down in a year or two.

            It was only really open to ease the transition between intel and arm.

            1. musictubes · 1790991147 · focus · HN ↗

               Give it up. People have been predicting this for 15 years.

               You can’t have a development machine locked down like iOS. As long as the Mac is the development machine at apple it will need to be able to run arbitrary code.

               1. londons_explore · 1790991324 · focus · HN ↗

                  It will still run arbitrary code... Within macos...

                  But they'll remove support for other OS's

                  1. willy_k · 1790997639 · focus · HN ↗

                     What support? Asahi had to fight to exist, especially early on when they essentially had to reimplement much of the graphics pipeline. And now its in mainline linux - short of a complete hostile lockdown of the bootloader, it’s not like they support other OS’s very much as is.

                     1. londons_explore · 1791019183 · focus · HN ↗

                        Asahi appears to be dead. It wont even boot on anything apple released in the past 2 years.

                        Sure, their M1-M3 support is okay (as long as you're fine with no hibernate or sleep support, so have to plug in the laptop or risk losing all your open stuff), and it was a lot of work by lots of volunteers... But at this point it's starting to look more like a retrocomputing project. As time ticks on, it'll become less and less viable using an ancient laptop, especially if local AI becomes commonplace.

                        1. [deleted] · 1791076498 · focus · HN ↗

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