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On social reality in China

255 points · 261 comments · thicTurtlLverXX

  1. HeavenFox · · focus · HN ↗
    I am Chinese living in America.

    All the authors observations ring true, and they all stem from one simple fact: China was a very poor country just forty years ago, and even today is only a middle income country.

    The uncomfortable truth is a lot of the things westerners take for granted are, in fact, luxuries. Arts and creativity is a luxury. Freedom to pursue passion is a luxury. Compassion is a luxury. Self-esteem is a luxury. If you barely have enough food to feed your family, as a significant number of Chinese people were in the 60s and 70s, you cannot afford any of these.

    China has grown richer at a remarkable rate, but the mentality shift can take generations.

    1. lenerdenator · · focus · HN ↗
      I would say that compassion is not a luxury; it's a necessity for human society to operate.

      Societies thrive when humans cut each other a little slack. They die when people are constantly looking for ways to take advantage of others.

      1. talon8635 · · focus · HN ↗
        Severely competitive and hopeless environments will do a hell of a job on human compassion.

        Read about the dehumanizing effects of concentration camps on individuals hiding food from their family or praying their father dies so they can get his food

        Its arguable that our ability to build luxurious enough societies has allowed out compassion to flourish far beyond what is witnessed elsewhere in the state of nature

        1. lenerdenator · · focus · HN ↗
          > concentration camps

          Concentration camps are an example of humans taking advantage of one another. Arguably, it's the ultimate example.

          1. talon8635 · · focus · HN ↗
            Yes, we agree on that.
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