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Apple's smart home camera reportedly won't record video

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  1. bangonkeyboard · · focus · HN ↗
    Sure, just like the Apple Watch doesn't "record" audio, it "flows."

    &quot;You think your watch records the audio around you? No no no. The audio flows into the Secure Enclave, and flowing is definitely not recording because it’s a different word.&quot; (<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;leancrew.com&#x2F;all-this&#x2F;2026&#x2F;09&#x2F;new-apple-watches-have-ears&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;leancrew.com&#x2F;all-this&#x2F;2026&#x2F;09&#x2F;new-apple-watches-have...)

    1. internet2000 · · focus · HN ↗
      &gt; record: to cause (sound, visual images, data, etc.) to be registered on something (such as a memory card, hard drive, or optical disc) in reproducible form

      via <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.merriam-webster.com&#x2F;dictionary&#x2F;record" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.merriam-webster.com&#x2F;dictionary&#x2F;record

      Seems accurate if the audio captured isn&#x27;t stored in a reproducible fashion.

      1. idle_zealot · · focus · HN ↗
        It is reproducible. It has to be for their feature to work. They&#x27;re trying to find some way to communicate to people that the recording is to a ring buffer, and isn&#x27;t durably saving everything it hears indefinitely. It&#x27;s an unenviable position to have to find a way to sell your engineering that enables a fairly privacy-preserving implementation of a feature that intuitively feels like it depends on surveillance to a mass audience. Made especially difficult by the environment where most products really are surveilling you even when they don&#x27;t need to.

        Of course, Apple still collects more data than it needs to and abuses users in other ways, so I don&#x27;t really feel bad for them.

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        2. internet2000 · · focus · HN ↗
          Would you consider a phone call &#x2F; VoIP a recording? Your voice is being encoded into digital data and put in a small buffer before it can be transmitted to the recipient.

          Don&#x27;t mean to make this sound like a gotcha, but the technical implementation is secondary to how there&#x27;s no output .wav anyone could play back. I think saying &quot;there&#x27;s no recording&quot; is a fair and clear to normal people description of what happens.

          1. ceejayoz · · focus · HN ↗
            If the phone company turned bits of it into a transcript for me, yes, I would.
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