Sure, just like the Apple Watch doesn't "record" audio, it "flows."
"You think your watch records the audio around you? No no no. The audio flows into the Secure Enclave, and flowing is definitely not recording because it’s a different word." (<a href="https://leancrew.com/all-this/2026/09/new-apple-watches-have-ears/" rel="nofollow">https://leancrew.com/all-this/2026/09/new-apple-watches-have...)
> record: to cause (sound, visual images, data, etc.) to be registered on something (such as a memory card, hard drive, or optical disc) in reproducible form
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Seems accurate if the audio captured isn't stored in a reproducible fashion.
It is reproducible. It has to be for their feature to work. They're trying to find some way to communicate to people that the recording is to a ring buffer, and isn't durably saving everything it hears indefinitely. It's an unenviable position to have to find a way to sell your engineering that enables a fairly privacy-preserving implementation of a feature that intuitively feels like it depends on surveillance to a mass audience. Made especially difficult by the environment where most products really are surveilling you even when they don't need to.
Of course, Apple still collects more data than it needs to and abuses users in other ways, so I don't really feel bad for them.
Would you consider a phone call / VoIP a recording? Your voice is being encoded into digital data and put in a small buffer before it can be transmitted to the recipient.
Don't mean to make this sound like a gotcha, but the technical implementation is secondary to how there's no output .wav anyone could play back. I think saying "there's no recording" is a fair and clear to normal people description of what happens.
So the conclusion would be that if the software can be modified, it has a writable storage media attached (not necessarily local) and an image sensor and/or mic, it is, was or will be a recording device at some point in time.
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"You think your watch records the audio around you? No no no. The audio flows into the Secure Enclave, and flowing is definitely not recording because it’s a different word." (<a href="https://leancrew.com/all-this/2026/09/new-apple-watches-have-ears/" rel="nofollow">https://leancrew.com/all-this/2026/09/new-apple-watches-have...)
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Seems accurate if the audio captured isn't stored in a reproducible fashion.
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Of course, Apple still collects more data than it needs to and abuses users in other ways, so I don't really feel bad for them.
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Don't mean to make this sound like a gotcha, but the technical implementation is secondary to how there's no output .wav anyone could play back. I think saying "there's no recording" is a fair and clear to normal people description of what happens.
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that’s really the question to be answered here.
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