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1. prasadvara · 1790886388 · focus · HN ↗

   The ongoing theme of all these responses was shifting the blame to the consumer.

   As expected. I think consumers also need to push back on these practices, but the problem is, majority of consumers are tech savy but not privacy savy.

   1. slowin · 1790887238 · focus · HN ↗

      I'd love to push back, I'm not sure what that looks like though. I can't even get an open source/open hardware phone that's decent, let alone a car.

      1. devin · 1790888881 · focus · HN ↗

         For my part, I will not be purchasing a new car until they bring back physical controls and dump the spyware.

         1. dublin · 1790896520 · focus · HN ↗

            Mee, too. And that's why I've made my peace with the idea of never again buying a new car. They're all garbage quality, outrageously expensive, and effectively unrepairable, anyway, so it's not a big loss. Probably most cars and trucks older than about 2018 are safe, I figure...

            1. verisimi · 1790917639 · focus · HN ↗

               In many places in Europe, older cars are not viable on account of emissions legislation. So, if you want to drive with an older car, you will have to pay a pretty large daily fee to do so. This is done in the name of pollution.

               I would expect this legislative approach will be rolled everywhere.

               I hate it, fwiw.

               1. bluGill · 1790940674 · focus · HN ↗

                  Not to mention, in most worlds, an electric car is going to be much cheaper to drive in the long run.

                  1. verisimi · 1790961692 · focus · HN ↗

                     You just need to splash 20-whatever thousands to upgrade first. Its only money!

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