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1. prasadvara · 1790886388 · focus · HN ↗

   The ongoing theme of all these responses was shifting the blame to the consumer.

   As expected. I think consumers also need to push back on these practices, but the problem is, majority of consumers are tech savy but not privacy savy.

   1. slowin · 1790887238 · focus · HN ↗

      I'd love to push back, I'm not sure what that looks like though. I can't even get an open source/open hardware phone that's decent, let alone a car.

      1. ad_fontes · 1790888139 · focus · HN ↗

         You might want to check out Slate. It's about the closest thing to an open vehicle platform I can imagine.

         1. wiml · 1790889192 · focus · HN ↗

            Does Slate actually make any statements about the level of telematics/surveillance in their vehicles?

            1. holycrapwhodat · 1790893585 · focus · HN ↗

               Yes.

               If you buy a completely option-free $24,950 truck, there is no telematics/surveillance in their vehicle.

               Which also means there's no remote app features that people enjoy.

               The spirit of the vehicle is you can option out just about anything and DIY-it; very, very few "from the factory" options, but dozens upon dozens of DIY accessories from the factory.

               Including a $275 telematics module - <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.slate.auto&#x2F;en&#x2F;store&#x2F;ACCIT010" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.slate.auto&#x2F;en&#x2F;store&#x2F;ACCIT010 - Which enables remote app features.

               The current description for the module on their website:

               &gt; A plug-and-play solution that acts as a cellular bridge between your smartphone and your Slate vehicle, enabling features like remote access and battery pre-conditioning.

               It&#x27;s not clear to anyone exactly what features the module has to enable the above, or if it does more than all that.

               Once the thing actually ships, there&#x27;ll be manuals, and there&#x27;ll be people hacking it to find out exactly what it both does and doesn&#x27;t do.

               And since it&#x27;s a DIY addition, if you later become uncomfortable with what you added to your vehicle, you can remove it!

               1. snypher · 1790895737 · focus · HN ↗

                  &gt;no remote app features that people enjoy.

                  I do enjoy watching my friend remote start his Colorado through the app, it only takes 30 seconds for the app to load and sign in, and then he presses a button that used to be on the key itself.

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