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1. Tangurena2 · 1790856629 · focus · HN ↗

   > “In [Fiscal Year] 2025, out of the over 419 million travelers CBP processed at ports of entry, CBP only searched the electronic devices of 55,318 international travelers,” the agency wrote, or 0.0013%.

   The harassment is targeted at critics & opponents of the current regime. The message is very clear: Be afraid of us. Be very afraid

   There are 33 days remaining until election day. Vote out all the incumbents.

   1. petcat · 1790857424 · focus · HN ↗

      I will be curious to see statistics from past years. I'm wondering if this is a new thing. I'm pretty sure US customs and border patrol have always had this power. I think basically every country exercises this power

      1. anal_reactor · 1790857738 · focus · HN ↗

         The core issue is that on one hand, police needs power to protect the citizens, but at the same time the power might corrupt them.

         1. echelon · 1790858323 · focus · HN ↗

            This is why state powers need judicial oversight.

            There are some instances where powers need to be exercised in a hurry, but there should always be proper reporting and a paper trail, with stiff reprimanded for misuse or abuse of the system. Accidents can happen, but they should be infrequent and should follow protocol.

            It would be great if citizens had more direct involvement in these cases too. I don't see why egregious abuses shouldn't be tried by jury.

            Police and intelligence agency employees should be held to a higher standard than civilians (like military personnel are subject to UCMJ), and breeches of protocols should lead to harsher punishments imposed upon them. It would be fine to pay them more if it required more training and accountability.

            1. someonebaggy · 1790860133 · focus · HN ↗

               In most of Europe, police carry guns. But they are afraid to fire those guns, because there will be a disciplinary process and they are likely to lose their job or go to jail if they can't show there was no other alternative. But if there is a situation where it is necessary to fire the gun, it will be.

               1. echelon · 1790861417 · focus · HN ↗

                  In the US, anyone can own a gun. Police have to perform a different risk calculus than in Europe.

                  Police officers are 30x more likely to be murdered in the US South than in, say, Germany.

                  1. catlikesshrimp · 1790861668 · focus · HN ↗

                     You just changed 45x to 30x. What is the source?

                     1. echelon · 1790861913 · focus · HN ↗

                        45x included accidents. I'll compile the citations, one moment.

                        > "From 2014 through 2023, the South region had the most line-of-duty deaths yearly compared to other regions. There was a 38% decrease in line-of-duty deaths in the region in 2023 (20 deaths) compared to 2022 (32 deaths). Last year marked the lowest number of line-of-duty deaths in the South since 2015 (19 deaths)."

                        <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.fbi.gov&#x2F;news&#x2F;press-releases&#x2F;fbi-releases-officers-killed-and-assaulted-in-the-line-of-duty-2023-special-report-and-law-enforcement-employee-counts" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.fbi.gov&#x2F;news&#x2F;press-releases&#x2F;fbi-releases-officer...

                        Felonious Deaths vs Accidental Deaths

                        <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;le.fbi.gov&#x2F;cjis-division&#x2F;cjis-link&#x2F;statistics-on-law-enforcement-officer-deaths-in-the-line-of-duty-from-january-through-september-2024" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;le.fbi.gov&#x2F;cjis-division&#x2F;cjis-link&#x2F;statistics-on-law...

                        &gt; &quot;A look at police crime statistics shows that fatal attacks on police officers are relatively rare. While violent acts against police officers are increasing overall—last year the statistics recorded 38,960 cases, a rise of 0.8 percent—no more than two police officers have been killed in the line of duty in any year since 2011.&quot; (Translated)

                        <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.bazonline.ch&#x2F;die-schiessen-369707652687" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.bazonline.ch&#x2F;die-schiessen-369707652687

                        1. greedo · 1790864101 · focus · HN ↗

                           Your comparison to Germany with &quot;30x&quot; the risk is pointless when less than two are murdered per year. Measure that against police misconduct that results in bodily harm&#x2F;death per year.
                        2. watwut · 1790865339 · focus · HN ↗

                           Most line-of-duty deaths are caused by traffic accidents. Cops spend a lot of time on the streets, they are more likely to by hit by a car then shot.

                           Also, right to have a gun should involve right to not be shot by a cop just because you own a gun.

               2. mc32 · 1790862761 · focus · HN ↗

                  Also in Europe more cops have K-9s and aren’t afraid to sick them on suspects.

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