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Gemini 4 Argon

1699 points · 1187 comments · bradleyg223

  1. wewewedxfgdf · · focus · HN ↗
    Gemini is so far behind that it is effectively useless compared to Claude.

    It's a surprise that Google has let themselves lose the game given their infinite cash, massive computing resource, gargantuan information store/training data, and vast number of programmers.

    The truckloads of ads revenue mean they don't have the single focus drive needed to win.

    1. bel8 · · focus · HN ↗
      I wonder if Google bans internal use of Claude/Codex.

      And I wonder if Google's main monorepo is already in Anthropic/OpenAI training data because of some stubborn dev.

      1. krat0sprakhar · · focus · HN ↗
        (I work at Google) Yes, internally we all use Jetski (internal version of Antigravity). Outside of Gemini, Opus models are supported and allowed for internal use. No OpenAI models since they are not on Vertex
      2. lunarboy · · focus · HN ↗
        Claude used to be GDM only, but recently opened up Opus for all googlers
      3. heyjamesknight · · focus · HN ↗
        No way to run OAI on a machine with monorepo access even if you wanted to. Claude runs on Vertex so it's not leaving Google infrastructure.
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