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The AI Race Just Got Awkward

412 points · 463 comments · allisdust

  1. slowin · · focus · HN ↗
    I'm also grateful to the Chinese labs for providing workarounds for the walled gardens that the US based AI companies are attempting to create.

    Does anyone know if there are any distillation datasets available? I'd love to see these distributed on BitTorrent. I think it's critical that AI be democratized and not isolated in the hands of a few private companies.

    1. skybrian · · focus · HN ↗
      There’s a libertarian sentiment that that doesn’t sit well with “AI is harming people” sentiment. If AI has harmful uses, and I think anyone sensible would have to agree that it does, then giving everyone unrestricted AI is likely to make it worse.

      It’s sort of like gun nuts arguing that more guns is the answer. I mean, ok, maybe you’re a responsible gun owner or AI user but relying on personal responsibility doesn’t fix systemic problems. There are bad people out there.

      1. hyperlinerapp · · focus · HN ↗
        Gun owner enters the conversation. In high trust societies, armed people are very polite people. I don’t want the bad guys out there being the only ones with guns. Besides I like to shoot just like you like (whatever you like to do that is legal).

        Replace “gun” with anything and you will see how your comment falls apart.

        What’s next? A registry for food purchases? Your beer gut is starting to show.

        1. skybrian · · focus · HN ↗
          If you mean high-trust societies like maybe Switzerland, I agree that it can work, but the US has lots of guns and doesn’t seem very polite, so how we’re doing it doesn’t seem to be working very well.

          We do have lots of food safety regulation, which has more to do with selling food.

          1. hyperlinerapp · · focus · HN ↗
            Unlike food, guns are your right.
            1. skybrian · · focus · HN ↗
              That seems unfortunate. I think a lot of people would prefer the reverse.

              Fortunately there is no right to AI.

              1. hyperlinerapp · · focus · HN ↗
                Nothing that some other person has to give you can be a right.

                A right is not something the government gives you. In the US, the Bill of Rights does not actually give you rights. You are born with rights. The Bill of Rights simply clarifies that the government CANNOT RESTRICT YOUR RIGHTS.

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