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1. cadamsdotcom · 1790726862 · focus · HN ↗

   I think actually we're forgetting how economically valuable light is and how much lighting at night improves human lives.

   While also - paradoxically - forgetting that there are plenty of dark places just outside your city if you're willing to drive to them.

   Perhaps it's in service of baiting you to click.

   1. DangitBobby · 1790726967 · focus · HN ↗

      Who is forgetting that? Complaining that I can't see the fucking stars doesn't mean I don't understand that having lights let's me see in the dark.

      1. chaostheory · 1790729942 · focus · HN ↗

         You’re forgetting about how crime thrives in darkness. Better street lighting has helped reduced crime over the years. Better lighting has also reduced nighttime traffic accidents.

         1. kulahan · 1790734233 · focus · HN ↗

            Wishing you could see the stars does not mean you’ve forgotten anything. I can wish a day was warmer and cooler. Two opposing things can be wished for, because they’re wishes.

            1. chaostheory · 1790749176 · focus · HN ↗

               It implies you have forgotten when you don't have counterarguments for the safety and crime deterence that lighting has brought society, a net positive, while you are complaining about not having enough darkness.

               It's like wishing that tall high density housing didn't block your formerly great view, all while ignoring the fact that there's not enough affordable housing in your area.

               Wishes without thought show naivety at best or selfishness at worst. I probably won't agree with kelnos, but at least kelnos thought about the problem surrounding his desire.

               1. kulahan · 1790793048 · focus · HN ↗

                  No, you see, I CAN wish for tall, high-density housing AND to be able to see the sky. It’s a wish! That’s the whole deal!

                  1. chaostheory · 1790822456 · focus · HN ↗

                     You can wish for things. I'm just saying that comments like that aren't very thoughtful and don't really add much to the discussion.

                     1. kulahan · 1790826680 · focus · HN ↗

                        Maybe. It's still nice to know that people have considerations beyond safety and efficiency, though. Maybe we still build our high-rises, but maybe we reflect as much light down as possible, and put more rooftop viewing areas up.

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