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US sanctions force The Netherlands off Microsoft and toward alternative NixOS

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  1. MadrasThorn · · focus · HN ↗
    Trump attacking the Netherlands means transatlanticism is really dead.

    I think this has a lot to do with how the case against Putin was built and Trump used his influence to disrupt it.

    1. rapsey · · focus · HN ↗
      The EU is entirely subjugated to the US. No energy independence, militaries falling apart and out of date, no tech development or investment.
      1. mittensc · · focus · HN ↗
        Maybe that's wrong?

        The US can't even win a war in the middle east without NATO

        What is the US going to do when China starts making their own moves?

        1. rapsey · · focus · HN ↗
          Outside the US, NATO countries have very little power projection capabilities. A bit of france, a bit of UK and then nothing.
          1. mittensc · · focus · HN ↗
            How's that power projection working in Iran/Yemen?

            Would NATO change the equation?

            1. bluGill · · focus · HN ↗
              The US has chosen not to project all the power they can. That is send soldiers - likely some to die. However the US has the ability to send them if they want, and could supply them if they did - nobody else has anywhere near that ability ready today.
              1. Danox · · focus · HN ↗
                Half a million soldiers and 57,000 dead in Vietnam did not win the war, when you have an adversary who is willing to fight and has a supply line. The same applied to Afghanistan and Korea.

                Russia is currently learning that lesson again. After Afghanistan, in the Ukraine, for the US to have any chance of winning in Iran the US needs at least half a million people on the ground. With a trillion dollar bankroll?

                The United States is reaching the end. When it comes to the amount of money needed, let alone the human cost, and to top it off, while we’re slogging around in the sand in Iran at every level, we will be getting weaker in relationship to China and the world.

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