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US sanctions force The Netherlands off Microsoft and toward alternative NixOS

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  1. MadrasThorn · · focus · HN ↗
    Trump attacking the Netherlands means transatlanticism is really dead.

    I think this has a lot to do with how the case against Putin was built and Trump used his influence to disrupt it.

    1. rapsey · · focus · HN ↗
      The EU is entirely subjugated to the US. No energy independence, militaries falling apart and out of date, no tech development or investment.
      1. mittensc · · focus · HN ↗
        Maybe that's wrong?

        The US can't even win a war in the middle east without NATO

        What is the US going to do when China starts making their own moves?

        1. rapsey · · focus · HN ↗
          Outside the US, NATO countries have very little power projection capabilities. A bit of france, a bit of UK and then nothing.
          1. mittensc · · focus · HN ↗
            How's that power projection working in Iran/Yemen?

            Would NATO change the equation?

            1. bluGill · · focus · HN ↗
              The US has chosen not to project all the power they can. That is send soldiers - likely some to die. However the US has the ability to send them if they want, and could supply them if they did - nobody else has anywhere near that ability ready today.
              1. RobotToaster · · focus · HN ↗
                Do you really think the USA has enough troops to take and occupy Iran without instituting a draft?
                1. bluGill · · focus · HN ↗
                  What does that have to do with anything? The need for a draft is one of several reasons why it is unlikely the US will escalate more. However that is a card the US could play quickly, and combined with the existing military would be enough. (Vietnam could have been won as well, but the US made political choices to not do what it takes)
                  1. mittensc · · focus · HN ↗
                    That's a lot of winning... having to introduce a draft...

                    How well do you think a draft is going to go? forced on an armed populace that might not want to die in iran?

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