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1. guidoiaquinti · 1790685221 · focus · HN ↗

   Several International Criminal Court (ICC) judges have been unable to access their bank accounts or receive routine salary payments and financial transfers due to financial blockages triggered by United States sanctions. In the country where they live

   1. rapsey · 1790686393 · focus · HN ↗

      ICC judges getting the right wing activist treatment, except the activists get it from their own government.

      1. flohofwoe · 1790687230 · focus · HN ↗

         Concrete examples to verify such claims please? Also in civilized countries such things are decided by the justice system, not the government (which to the surprise of many simple minded people - like a certain US president and his fanbase - is independent from the government).

         1. pc86 · 1790687573 · focus · HN ↗

            In what universe is the judiciary not part of the government?

            1. bunderbunder · 1790688049 · focus · HN ↗

               Government is a term with multiple senses.

               In the US it’s common to only use it to describe the entire apparatus for holding, administering and enforcing state power.

               But it can also be used to mean the current ruling power in a parliamentary system together with the administrative bodies under its direct control. So something more akin to just the executive branch in the US system. And then certain state agencies such as the judiciary are meant to be independent of the government under that meaning of the term. I believe this is the most common understanding of the word outside the US.

               1. edgyquant · 1790688456 · focus · HN ↗

                  Its a really weird use of the word government to not actually refer to the government but to the executive and saying the “courts are outside of the government” makes it seem like they aren’t a part of the state.

                  1. impossiblefork · 1790692517 · focus · HN ↗

                     Consider though system like the Swedish system which existed in the Viking age with Things and a king.

                     Things were courts with huge power, and consisted of a gathering of all free men and had basically unlimited power, because they were the people. Meanwhile, the government was the person of the king.

                     I think that's an example of a system where the courts (Thing) is clearly not part of the government.

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