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1. benbristow · 1790684193 · focus · HN ↗

   I've had an idea in the back of my head but I'm no businessman so have this one for free.

   Build an AI model, train it from the catalogues of JD Sports and Sports Direct (and other brands like Stone Island etc.) and how to detect balaclavas, illegal electric bikes and e-scooters. Have it link to cameras and do a percentage chance using machine learning on chance of crime. Also increase the percentage if a 'wheely' is done (riding only on back wheel).

   Would minority report the majority of crime in this country in one fell swoop.

   Could call it ScroteScanner.

   Some would call it discrimination but the majority of ASB I see around my area are people dressed/using those exact things.

   If they start to catch-on (unlikely) then worse case we have a fancier looking society with gangsters in suits again.

   1. Waterluvian · 1790684826 · focus · HN ↗

      They should just round up and imprison all the people who walk in my neighbourhood.

      Some would call it discrimination but the majority of people who commit crimes in my area are people who can walk. I rarely see the wheelchair crowd pulling off B&Es.

      Oh, or people who wear clothes. Criminals seem to like wearing clothes. Point proven: you never see nudists shoplifting Old Navy.

      1. bellowsgulch · 1790684972 · focus · HN ↗

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         1. natpalmer1776 · 1790686236 · focus · HN ↗

            I would rather all my shit get stolen at gunpoint and my local grocers close due to rampant shoplifting than put a single innocent man in jail over some bullshit “minority report”-esque pre-crime algorithm someone with three squares and reliable housing decided was a good idea.

            The problem with stereotypes isn’t that they are usually right (they’re not), it’s that they’re sometimes (usually) wrong.

            1. n4r9 · 1790687221 · focus · HN ↗

               The other problem is that stereotyping an entire social group simply alienates the members of that group. They perceive that society doesn't trust or value them, so in response they don't trust or value society. See e.g. racial profiling in the London Met's use of stop-and-search powers.

               If your ultimate goal is harm-reduction, then stereotyping is irrational.

               1. natpalmer1776 · 1790688388 · focus · HN ↗

                  Unfortunately it seems most of the people who I've spoken to that advocate for prosecution-by-stereotype don't want to understand the nuance involved in causing groups to become disenfranchised. In the eyes of the people I've spoken to there is never any reason to commit a crime and if you associate with people who do then you're no better than the criminals.

                  It's a serious lack of empathy and understanding.

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         2. antonvs · 1790687243 · focus · HN ↗

            If you seriously want to arrest people based on stereotypes, you deserve far worse than annoyance.

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