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1. djmips · 1790644503 · focus · HN ↗

   Perhaps demand is going down abroad due to people eschewing US products.

   1. _spduchamp · 1790649957 · focus · HN ↗

      This.

      1. ltbarcly3 · 1790655872 · focus · HN ↗

         OMG, it's interesting to see how the average person reasons about the world.

         You have your pet theory, you, without evidence, decide that every fact you see is confirmation for that theory, so now you believe your theory even more.

         I want to say something to make you feel bad about this, but you think I'm telling you that you were right all along.

         1. m4ck_ · 1790680230 · focus · HN ↗

            Do we really need evidence to draw a line between the US's biggest trading partners boycotting the US alcohol industry and a drop in sales in the US alcohol industry? I feel like the only way you don't make that connection is if you're either severely uninformed or so lost down the MAGA rabbit hole you've forgotten the taste of food, the sound of water, the touch of grass...

            1. ltbarcly3 · 1790691749 · focus · HN ↗

               Yes, you need evidence lol. Yes.

               Thank you for confirming my point though.

               Do you really go through life seeing confirmation of all your beliefs everywhere, without ever checking?

               US consumers spend about $115 Billion annually on wine. Exports to canada are less than 1% of that. I don't see how Canada matters much to the US in general, and specifically it doesn't make sense that a 70% reduction in half a percent of wine sales (that's like 0.4% reduction overall) is a major factor in putting the industry out of business, but you are welcome to look it up yourself or correct me. Keep in mind that US wine sold in canada will have gone through several hands and be heavily taxed, so the amount per bottle getting back to grape growers is a very small percentage of that already tiny percentage.

               But of course you won't bother to look it up, you will just roll your eyes and assume US grape growers are being forced out of business because Manitoba's liquor stores are finally flexing their international influence!

               1. m4ck_ · 1790693241 · focus · HN ↗

                  If you believe that the US trade war and threats to Canada and Europe aren't directly impacting US alcohol sales, I'm fairly certain that is exactly what you are doing. I don't need "evidence" beyond what I'm already aware of: Alcohol industry trade groups (American craft spirits association for example), and representatives from states with strong alcohol industries, have publicly acknowledged the trade war's impact, or even begged for relief. And that's on top of Canadian liquor stores publicly announcing they're pulling American products.

                  My guess is the only evidence you'll accept is the word of the party and the dear leader.

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