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California farmers are struggling to sell grapes as demand for wine drops

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  1. alexandre_m · · focus · HN ↗
    > while young people are drinking less alcohol due to health and financial concerns

    My observation is that gen-z spends less time socializing in real life, and drinking remains a social habit for the most part at a younger age. While they drink less, cannabis, vaping and psychedelics are on the rise.

    It's a nice claim to say they are more responsible, but it tells an incomplete story.

    1. thefourthchime · · focus · HN ↗
      I don't think the science is settled, but the idea that there's a lot more to do at home to stay occupied and entertained rather than going outside is factually true.

      When I was growing up, there were only a handful of channels and then cable. Compared to what we have now, that was the Dark Ages. There's so much you can do on a screen now that's compelling.

      Infinite scrolling on Shorts, YouTube, video games, social media, hanging out with people online, chatrooms—combine that with Uber Eats, and you can do whatever you want.

      The one thing that will make you want to go out is, of course, meeting someone to have sex with, but that's become weaponized, especially for young adults.

      Boys being called creepy and predatory for making the wrong move was always an issue, but now you can be shamed online with a video as proof. Why take the risk when you can meet somebody online?

      1. watwut · · focus · HN ↗
        If there is a creepy video as a result, the "move" was likely creepy.
        1. thefourthchime · · focus · HN ↗
          The move is only creepy if the interest is one way.

          This is why the memes of some guy talking to a coworker is considered sexual assault, where if Tom Brady does it, it’s considered cute flirtation

          1. watwut · · focus · HN ↗
            Except you made that up.
            1. Mountain_Skies · · focus · HN ↗
              It's a common meme. You can disagree with the validity of the meme but not with the existence of it.

              <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;knowyourmeme.com&#x2F;photos&#x2F;1663497-hello-human-resources" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;knowyourmeme.com&#x2F;photos&#x2F;1663497-hello-human-resource...

              1. moate · · focus · HN ↗
                The above statement can be read as disagreeing with the validity of the statement. IDK why OP would try to refute a meme&#x27;s existence and not the sentence the meme semes to be supporting. Why did you believe that was their intent?
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