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California farmers are struggling to sell grapes as demand for wine drops

389 points · 987 comments · randycupertino

  1. ortusdux · · focus · HN ↗
    <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;wineinstitute.org&#x2F;press-releases&#x2F;one-year-later&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;wineinstitute.org&#x2F;press-releases&#x2F;one-year-later&#x2F;

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    1. randycupertino · · focus · HN ↗
      - Tariffs so less international demand for US wine

      - Canadian boycots of US products due to tariff wars

      - Boomer wine buyers dying off

      - younger generations drinking less overall and being less into wine

      - everyone on GLP-1s drinking less

      1. ortusdux · · focus · HN ↗
        - Legal pot
        1. sublinear · · focus · HN ↗
          ???

          THC has never been an alternative to alcohol. There are definitely people who prefer it instead of alcohol and there are people who use both.

          I don&#x27;t know anyone who thinks they&#x27;re interchangeable unless they&#x27;re solely looking at it as a political&#x2F;functional slot to fill.

          If you force a drunk who hates pot to switch and vice-versa, they genuinely might want to murder you, but why make this a wedge issue?

          1. zug_zug · · focus · HN ↗
            I think gummies are a superior (more pleasant, healthier, safer) social lubricant than alcohol and I’m sure I’m not alone
            1. boringg · · focus · HN ↗
              Equivalent risk. No way is THC healthier than alcohol - both in moderation not at excess.

              Then its a personal preference thing.

              1. NewJazz · · focus · HN ↗
                That&#x27;s a pretty big claim. Alcohol&#x27;s harm to major organs like the liver is pretty well known. What kind of harm does THC&#x2F;CBD cause when consumed orally?
                1. boringg · · focus · HN ↗
                  harm to major organs &gt;&gt; at high doses not at low doses but agree there is an increased risk to liver on alcohol.

                  Gummies put a cognitive burden. If you are smoking that puts a fair burden on the cardiovascular system. High dose THC run a risk of psychosis.

                  Look im not pro either I&#x27;m however not in this lala land of believing there isn&#x27;t any negative effects of THC especially over time.

                  1. NewJazz · · focus · HN ↗

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