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1. ortusdux · 1790627747 · focus · HN ↗

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   1. randycupertino · 1790628352 · focus · HN ↗

      - Tariffs so less international demand for US wine

      - Canadian boycots of US products due to tariff wars

      - Boomer wine buyers dying off

      - younger generations drinking less overall and being less into wine

      - everyone on GLP-1s drinking less

      1. ortusdux · 1790628432 · focus · HN ↗

         - Legal pot

         1. sublinear · 1790643724 · focus · HN ↗

            ???

            THC has never been an alternative to alcohol. There are definitely people who prefer it instead of alcohol and there are people who use both.

            I don&#x27;t know anyone who thinks they&#x27;re interchangeable unless they&#x27;re solely looking at it as a political&#x2F;functional slot to fill.

            If you force a drunk who hates pot to switch and vice-versa, they genuinely might want to murder you, but why make this a wedge issue?

            1. mathgeek · 1790644380 · focus · HN ↗

               I believe they mean having alternative choices in what one can legally consume to get high&#x2F;drunk&#x2F;etc.

               1. sublinear · 1790644487 · focus · HN ↗

                  I don&#x27;t know any pot smoker who ever gave a flying crap if it was legal. Let&#x27;s not whitewash the past. It became legal for a reason.

                  If you feel this way about pot, have you not also considered that similar already occurred with alcohol roughly a century ago (in the USA)? Why do you think cops avoid overpolicing bars when they&#x27;d be entirely in their right to do so?

                  Personal use of drugs is the clearest example in all of criminal justice where people of all beliefs have to admit there really is a much bigger and widespread mental health problem at the root of it. This is very very far from a new topic. There&#x27;s nothing special about pot.

                  1. jasonwatkinspdx · 1790646503 · focus · HN ↗

                     &gt; I don&#x27;t know any pot smoker who ever gave a flying crap if it was legal.

                     I know plenty.

                     Generally the fit the pattern of being familiar with it from exposure a few times as teenagers or such and liked it, but it wasn&#x27;t a big enough deal for them to want to find and maintain a relationship with a drug dealer, concerns that if they pulled it out at a party it might lead to consequences within their social or professional circle, etc.

                     1. 0cf8612b2e1e · 1790649597 · focus · HN ↗

                        I don’t know what GP is smoking. Most people do not maintain a relationship with a drug dealer. Legal access available from a convenient store front unlocks plenty of users who did not want the legal risk or hassle.

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