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California farmers are struggling to sell grapes as demand for wine drops

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  1. ortusdux · · focus · HN ↗
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    1. randycupertino · · focus · HN ↗
      - Tariffs so less international demand for US wine

      - Canadian boycots of US products due to tariff wars

      - Boomer wine buyers dying off

      - younger generations drinking less overall and being less into wine

      - everyone on GLP-1s drinking less

      1. philipallstar · · focus · HN ↗
        &gt; - Tariffs so less international demand for US wine

        Why&#x27;s this?

        1. legitster · · focus · HN ↗
          I feel like this is a trolling question. Demand for US exports has never been lower in recent history.
          1. philipallstar · · focus · HN ↗
            Feelings aside, I was just asking a question because I didn&#x27;t understand the link.
            1. Borealid · · focus · HN ↗
              Countries other than the US have, for reasons that you may choose to find mysterious, imposed tariffs on products exported from the US.

              Tariffs raise the consumer-visible price of those goods. This then, due to demand elasticity, causes consumers in those non-US countries to buy fewer of those products.

              Some impact may be badwill as well but quite a bit is first-order impact of second-order tariffs.

              1. mc32 · · focus · HN ↗
                That seems odd since the EU lowered tariffs on US ag products. They also took back some previous retaliatory tariffs that were in place.
                1. Borealid · · focus · HN ↗
                  Question: what is the ratio of US wine imported into the EU vs US wine imported into Canada, by dollar value?

                  Question: what is the percentage increase in tariff amounts on wine between the pre- and post-USMCA state of play between the US and Canada?

                  Sometimes seeing why something has happened requires considering wider context, which is why it&#x27;s usually good for a nation to ensure primary education includes solid economics, history, media literacy, etc curricula.

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