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Updated Google Maps shows destruction of the city of Rafah

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bognition · 1790616426 · focus · HN ↗
Its really telling to see the destruction limited to where the structures used to be rather than to all of the surrounding green spaces. If the destruction of civilian dwellings was purely an accident you'd expect to see the destruction spread evenly over the area. Instead it looks much more like a prolonged set of surgical strikes to destroy the buildings while preserving as much of the surrounding areas as possible.
For a great example of this, look at this pin <a href="https://maps.app.goo.gl/ZcMbdFcx87PrqoYNA" rel="nofollow">https://maps.app.goo.gl/ZcMbdFcx87PrqoYNA
And here's a pin of where the farms were spared <a href="https://maps.app.goo.gl/iZbbTH4iH27FCz4s9" rel="nofollow">https://maps.app.goo.gl/iZbbTH4iH27FCz4s9
1. biimugan · 1790619643 · focus · HN ↗
  I don't quite understand your argument here. In your first pin I'm struggling to find a single building that isn't leveled, or at least severely damaged. Even buildings far away from the city center in the boonies are leveled.
  1. cogman10 · 1790637175 · focus · HN ↗
    They are saying that this is genocidal destruction. In a war sometimes civilian infrastructure is hit as collateral. But here, all infrastructure is destroyed and it's clear this wasn't done by 1 or 2 errant bombs but rather because of direct targeting. It can't be argued to be an accident because in farmland you see no bombs which hit the farmland by mistake. In other-words, this is entirely purposeful.
    teleforce · 1790642011 · focus · HN ↗
    >this is entirely purposeful
    Please check Norman Finkelstein's latest book namely Gaza's Gravediggers on this matter [1].
    He also has a very telling and chilling interview recently on Palestine and Gaza [2].
    [1] Gaza's Gravediggers: An Inquiry into Corruption in High Places [book].
    [2] Norman Finkelstein Reveals Shocking Discoveries While Researching History of Israel’s Gaza Obsession [video]:
    <a href="https://youtu.be/Jmv2h1WYnNo" rel="nofollow">https://youtu.be/Jmv2h1WYnNo
    yyyk · 1790642389 · focus · HN ↗
    What a nice, objective guy:
    <a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/chomsky/comments/uyqjn2/norman_finkelstein_russia_has_the_historical/" rel="nofollow">https://www.reddit.com/r/chomsky/comments/uyqjn2/norman_fink...
    bluealienpie · 1790643214 · focus · HN ↗
    He also promotes transphobia. Chomsky was friends with Epstein and acquaintance of Steve Bannon. I don’t think that discredits his entire body of work, but I think we should stop promoting him when there are sources that are less problematic.
    cogman10 · 1790643566 · focus · HN ↗
    You are mixing Chomsky (the subreddit) up with Norm (the book author). Norm was friends with Chomsky but not Epstein or Bannon. I'm unaware of him having transphobic views.
    Sabinus · 1790643728 · focus · HN ↗
    I would caution against uncritical consumption of Finkelstein's work. He is a bit unhinged, and limited in what content he can analyse as he can't read Arabic or Hebrew.
    Also Tucker Carlson? Seriously?
    cassepipe · 1790681298 · focus · HN ↗
    Norman Finkelstein's treatment of sources is dubious at best , dishonest at worst, and he is not very good at defending his position when challenged on them
    At least that was my takeaway after watching his debate with Destiny (the streamer) and Benny Morris (the historian):
    You be the judge: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1X_KdkoGxSs&list=PLrAXtmErZgOdP_8GztsuKi9nrraNbKKp4&index=85" rel="nofollow">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1X_KdkoGxSs&list=PLrAXtmErZg...
    monirmamoun · 1790704668 · focus · HN ↗
    Save your Hasbara. It is backfiring.
    cassepipe · 1790759447 · focus · HN ↗
    I don't know what that means and I am not going to search for it. Have fun with your ingroup that uses words that only you all know what they mean to recognize each other from the outgroup.
    manyaoman · 1790762279 · focus · HN ↗
    The irony here is so perfect that I don't know what to say. Absolutely masterful.
    cassepipe · 1790798727 · focus · HN ↗
    I am glad to know you like what's happening in your own head. Good for you

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