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Nissan's third generation e-POWER powertrain

170 points · 462 comments · mroche

  1. Toutouxc · · focus · HN ↗
    I used to like hybrids, and obviously series hybrids are the coolest kind of hybrids, but now that I’m driving a budget EV, I honestly don’t see the point anymore. Just get the EV and skip the awkward half-way step that inherits the most expensive and complicated parts from both designs.

    Seeing a sleek modern car pull away whisper quiet and then start the ICE 3 seconds later with a stutter and a puff of water vapor from underneath is the most schizophrenic sight, it somehow feels more dated than actual ICE cars.

    Unless you live in bumfuck nowhere with expensive electricity, zero solar power and a daily 5 hour commute, an EV will likely work just fine for you.

    1. mattmaroon · · focus · HN ↗
      My live-in girlfriend has a Tesla that she has had for six years. We live in northeast Ohio, not a small population.

      Each of us once a week have to drive far enough that we would public charge and the inconvenience is enough that we are getting a hybrid.

      A 2 hr trip becoming a three hour trip only has to happen to you once a week for a few weeks before you realize the limitations.

      1. rootusrootus · · focus · HN ↗
        Something has to be very wrong if you're charging at all on a three hour trip, or taking an hour to charge. Do you have one of those mythical Canada-only stripper models that Tesla created as a dodge around regulations? One of those with a degraded battery is about the only way you can find yourself with a range barely over 100 miles.

        I just recently did a 422 mile trip. Needed one 11 minute recharging stop.

        1. dcrazy · · focus · HN ↗
          My EV could probably make a 3 hour highway trip without charging, but it would put me dangerously close to empty when I arrived.
        2. idontwantthis · · focus · HN ↗
          Depends a lot on terrain. Las Vegas to SD is brutal for elevation. Only 332 miles but I had to stop to charge twice in order to arrive with at least 20% charge in my 330mi range EV. Maybe I could have done it on 1 stop but I didn't want to risk getting my family stranded.
          1. rootusrootus · · focus · HN ↗
            That is a fair point. Although ABRP tells me I should be able to do it with a single 11 minute stop, only bringing SOC up to 55%. But to be completely honest, I have not driven the route, so ABRP estimate is the best I have to work with (it is usually a good match for me).

            Ohio probably does not have a hill higher than ~1500 ft within a three hour drive :).

        3. mattmaroon · · focus · HN ↗
          Not at all. At highway speeds you can easily take a Tesla from 80 to 20 in 3 hrs. That’s 210 miles.

          Yeah if I’m willing to regularly charged to 100 and drive it down to 10 I can get another hour.

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