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Was silent reading unusual during Augustine's time?

78 points · 63 comments · ryanscio

  1. hizlikovboy27 · · focus · HN ↗
    the Augustine passage is a fascinating piece of evidence, but i wonder how much we can infer from it about the wider reading habits of the ancient world.
    1. rob74 · · focus · HN ↗
      To get to that, we have to first think about the literacy rate in antiquity, which is estimated at 5 to 10%. And of those, most could probably read well enough to get by, but didn't routinely read longer texts. So someone who was well-enough versed in reading to not have to read the text out loud in order to understand it was probably a rare and noteworthy creature indeed...
      1. js8 · · focus · HN ↗
        And you can't read long texts if there aren't that many to begin with. But it raises a question - why didn't China, which invented printing press earlier, didn't fare better?
        1. JumpCrisscross · · focus · HN ↗
          > why didn't China, which invented printing press earlier, didn't fare better?

          Moveable type was invented in the 11th century [1]. Kublai Khan moved in in the 13th. Then the Mings spent a couple centuries being autocratic menaces, Qianlong went on a pogrom of China's scholars and Europe caught up.

          By the 13th century, China–uniquely–had both moveable-type presses and joint-stock companies. A combination of bad luck (the Mongols) and a tendency towards political shitshows squandered that lead.

          [1] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;History_of_printing_in_East_Asia#:~:text=A%20type%20of,of%20woodblock%20printing" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;History_of_printing_in_East_As...

          1. rob74 · · focus · HN ↗
            Yeah, we tend to forget that progress unfortunately doesn&#x27;t move steadily in one direction...
        2. inglor_cz · · focus · HN ↗
          Yeah, in Ancient Rome, the typical unit of writing was a scroll, not a book. Books (codices) only came to be widespread by 300 AD, and &quot;widespread&quot; still means &quot;quite rare and expensive, but not totally unheard of&quot;.
        3. nephihaha · · focus · HN ↗
          Because the Chinese writing system is immensely complicated, and alphabets are far easier to typeset.

          You have to know over two thousand characters to read classical Chinese, with some appearing very rarely.

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