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1. juiceland · 1790528872 · focus · HN ↗

   Why does China not have this problem?

   1. no-name-here · 1790529085 · focus · HN ↗

      Are Chinese models actually also doing unexpected things, hacking (intentionally or unintentionally), etc but there is just zero transparency provided when it happens?

      To use an analogy to another industry, if you had US food companies providing reports whenever their food had issues, even if it was just during testing or training phases… and then also had a bunch of Chinese companies but who never reported having any food issues…

      1. freehorse · 1790529505 · focus · HN ↗

         > there is just zero transparency provided when it happens?

         Neither does openai, as there keep coming third-party reports of incidents that have happened there that openai either did not know or basically concealed.

         1. no-name-here · 1790565163 · focus · HN ↗

            That is surprising to hear, as one of the primary claims I frequently hear is that the US labs intentionally causing these incidents (or even making it up) in order to claim that AI can cause harms that have caused other industries to face some kinds of rules.

            >> [With China's AI] there is just zero transparency provided when it happens?

            > Neither does openai…

            What are the examples of 3rd-party reports of "incidents" where OpenAI covered it up, etc? And do you really believe when you said OpenAI provides "zero transparency" when their models do something unexpected, negative, etc?

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