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1. collyw · 1790376561 · focus · HN ↗

   Has any of this surveillance bullshit reduced the number of incidents that occurred where they have been installed? I find it terrifying.

   1. augment_me · 1790377453 · focus · HN ↗

      No because its not the purpose. The purpose is to reduce risk by having accountability assignment to things like demonstrations that hurts the funding of the institution.

      There was a bunch of anti-Israel stuff for example, which goes against the alignment of the university donors. In order to be able to assign accountability and prevent reoccurrence of such events, its useful to know who did these things so you can take necessary measures.

      A bunch of cameras cost much much less than what stopped funding would cost the university, so it's the rational choice.

      1. lostlogin · 1790378151 · focus · HN ↗

         > it's the rational choice.

         Time will tell. Long term, I think it’ll hurt them.

         1. augment_me · 1790378920 · focus · HN ↗

            I really doubt that putting up some cameras will make the institution suffer monetarily in the long term, especially considering that newer generations are essentially brought up and normalized to full mass surveillance already.
         2. deaux · 1790382180 · focus · HN ↗

            Of course it won't. It never has. The people making these decisions and profiting from them will be long gone, even if it ends up hurting the university (which it won't)
         3. Waterluvian · 1790385753 · focus · HN ↗

            I’m still waiting for my ancestor’s liege lord to realize that posting a guard outside our town’s tavern was going to backfire long term.

            Security, but at what cost?!

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