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Supreme Court permits states to use SAVE database for citizenship checks

79 points · 105 comments · speckx

  1. ck2 · · focus · HN ↗
    hacked, copied and distributed to countries that are trying to harm us in 3, 2, 1

    remember Heritage Foundation spent a small fortune to try to find illegal voting over the past decades and they only found a handful of cases, most accidental and not willful and far too few to cause any effect at all

    if the Dems get the Senate somehow and don't immediately pass laws to protect voting against actions of the Executive, well then they deserve to lose 2028

    of course he'll veto everything but there might be enough will to override

    1. sejje · · focus · HN ↗
      > find illegal voting over the past decades and they only found a handful of cases

      They found hundreds of cases this year in Pennsylvania, from the 2020 election alone, with a lot more left to look at.

      1. hydrogen7800 · · focus · HN ↗
        >hundreds of cases this year in Pennsylvania

        This something like an order of magnitude lower than the error margin.

        1. sejje · · focus · HN ↗
          Florida elected George W by 437 votes in 2000.

          Al Franken won a senate seat by 312 votes in 2008

          A Maine House seat was won by 1 vote in 2024

          1 illegal vote is too many.

          1. goatlover · · focus · HN ↗
            Again, it is the states who administer elections. Full stop. The administration is trying to undermine that. Trump and his allies have already said the Democrats can't be allowed to win.
            1. sejje · · focus · HN ↗
              To say the feds don't have any say in federal elections just is not really true.

              Every political party and their allies say their opponents can't be allowed to win, at least the last few election cycles. It's a tired trope that "Trump is going to do xyz thing to stay in power." It's a hysteria cycle, and none of it ever comes true.

              1. wredcoll · · focus · HN ↗
                No, this isn't what is being said at all.
                1. sejje · · focus · HN ↗
                  Yes, people are saying "Trump is trying to stay in power"

                  That's my best guess at what you're refuting, since I had it in quotes. Otherwise you're just vagueposting on a 4-day old thread. Try being more specific, make a point.

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