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Ollaya – Ollama for open-source, Jev-style decision models

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  1. pradn · · focus · HN ↗
    I'm not sure what this means for AI startups if their innovations can be copied by OSS so quickly (what, like 2 weeks?). There's "consumer surplus" for everyone, to borrow an economic concept. But we do ideally want some of the surplus to flow to the innovator, too. I know there were precursors, but that's fine - it's hard to have a totally novel idea in such a popular field. I don't know what the end game is for TypeSafe - they'd need to demonstrate perpetually better results, or compete in another axis: UX, support, custom solutions, etc. So much of the time, someone proving a concept, or it simply getting enough publicity, is enough for a "Cambrian explosion" of follow-ups and copies. Famously, that was true for "Attention is All You Need", and the general idea of "next-token prediction" being so powerful.

    We've stumbled into general differentiable models..

    1. totetsu · · focus · HN ↗
      Are you saying laya copied from jev, and released in two weeks? If so I don’t thinks it’s quite as simple a story as that. <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;xtxinversexty.com&#x2F;layas-prior-art-claim-is-absurd&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;xtxinversexty.com&#x2F;layas-prior-art-claim-is-absurd&#x2F;
      1. kensai · · focus · HN ↗
        There is definitely more to the story. There is a huge financial interest for each side to discredit the other. Fact of the matter is, we still don&#x27;t know who will prevail. These are cutting edge tech stacks and they were just released.
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