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1. iamdelirium · 1790353251 · focus · HN ↗

   I wonder if this is going start being abused soon.

   If I was Palantir or any other GOP aligned company, I would be completely against this. What's to stop a Democratic president from doing the same thing and destroying them?

   1. cramer4next · 1790353527 · focus · HN ↗

      Can you clarify what a GOP aligned company is? Is that any company thats willing to do business with the U.S. government or any businesses thats willing to sell products in red states?

      1. SpicyLemonZest · 1790355305 · focus · HN ↗

         I don't see a need to come up with a complete definition at this point. Let's start with cancelling all SpaceX and Palantir contracts and see how we're feeling; that may be enough to keep corporations in line.

         1. cramer4next · 1790356827 · focus · HN ↗

            Because there is none. Its rhetoric and its personal to you. Its like me saying I haven't spent a nickle on anything Nike because of their narative selling. Hence anyone who wears Nike products is a bad person. Its ridiculous, narrow minded and undemocratic.

            1. hardbass · 1790357598 · focus · HN ↗

               Telling my mind about anyone or any company is the ideal expression of free speech and democracy. Using government force against a company that refused a contract is the opposite of democracy.

               1. cramer4next · 1790358622 · focus · HN ↗

                  It sure isn't democratic when only the top 1 percent in charge make those decisions that inflame you. These companies have thousands, if not tens of thousands of employees, that I can guarantee don't agree on statements or positions that the people at the top make as a company whole. So why would you want you punish people who have nothing to do with this. In the end its the regular employees who pay, not the corporate leadership.

                  1. hardbass · 1790358843 · focus · HN ↗

                     I am the last person to "enjoy" that openai is getting boycotted. I respect both companies. And openai themselves probably did it under pressure knowing that Trump is a thug.

                     1. cramer4next · 1790374873 · focus · HN ↗

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                        1. hardbass · 1790375023 · focus · HN ↗

                           I don't suffer from Trump Dicksucking Syndrome so I am afraid your diagnosis is mistaken. I use all models freely, why the fuck would I care about some bs military designation, I don't work in defense. Do you work for a defense company? If not why are you so stupid to refuse to use a model for this designation?

                           1. cramer4next · 1790457218 · focus · HN ↗

                              I work for a proprietary trading firm that creates markets and liquidity for U.S. based exchanges. Given our relience on AI now on decision making and identifying opportunities we can't afford to use solutions deemed a threat to any of our supply chains. What happens when Claude says you've earned too much money and I'm not going to do that? Straight up insanity.
                        2. hardbass · 1790375077 · focus · HN ↗

                           Trump is a thug who needs protection money to be paid or he will randomly declare you or your company a threat.

                           1. cramer4next · 1790376493 · focus · HN ↗

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                              1. hardbass · 1790376581 · focus · HN ↗

                                 You seem extremely confused. You are the one who seems to suffer from Trump Dicksucking Syndrome. I have no issues slagging off Trump.

                                 1. cramer4next · 1790451294 · focus · HN ↗

                                    Never heard of that disease before. Is that something local to Portland?
                  2. hardbass · 1790375378 · focus · HN ↗

                     Aren't you the one who said this?

                     <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=49694185">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=49694185

                     &gt;For me the end of buying anything Nike for my household and owning there stock was 2018. After their embracement of kaepernick and circus of marketing schemes that followed its no surprise what the outcome would be. Now Lululemon hired one of architects of all this as their CEO. They followed the nike playbook and are already suffering from it. Now their doubling down in a race to the bottom.

                     1. cramer4next · 1790376399 · focus · HN ↗

                        Yes. Exactly where I stand. I also dont use anthropic products because of their false anti-gorverment stance even though they want to sell to them. If I could i&#x27;d short their stock too.

                        1. hardbass · 1790376631 · focus · HN ↗

                           It sure isn&#x27;t democratic when only the top 1 percent in charge make those decisions that inflame you. These companies have thousands, if not tens of thousands of employees, that I can guarantee don&#x27;t agree on statements or positions that the people at the top make as a company whole. So why would you want you punish people who have nothing to do with this. In the end its the regular employees who pay, not the corporate leadership.
                        2. hardbass · 1790376927 · focus · HN ↗

                           How are they anti government? You keep making up stuff out of thin air. Anthropic posited certain requirements in their contract, trump pissed and shat and got them designated a supply chain risk randomly instead of negotiating or just canceling.

                           If you support using AI to kill people without human oversight and using AI to mass surveil the American population, of course its your freedom to.

                     2. cramer4next · 1790377540 · focus · HN ↗

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                        1. hardbass · 1790377732 · focus · HN ↗

                           But you said Anthropic are obviously an unreliable source so why would you believe their lies?

                           1. cramer4next · 1790378950 · focus · HN ↗

                              Higher quality? Fot what vibe coding? Do you even know what it means when they deem you a supply chain risk?

                              &quot;“Supply chain risk” means the risk that an adversary may sabotage, maliciously introduce unwanted function, or otherwise subvert the design, integrity, manufacturing, production, distribution, installation, operation, or maintenance of a covered system so as to surveil, deny, disrupt, or otherwise degrade the function, use, or operation of such system (see 10 U.S.C. 3252).&quot;

                              Src: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.acquisition.gov&#x2F;dfars&#x2F;subpart-239.73-requirements-information-relating-supply-chain-risk" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.acquisition.gov&#x2F;dfars&#x2F;subpart-239.73-requirement...

                              Now why would anyone want to use a product that carries that designation?

                              1. hardbass · 1790379457 · focus · HN ↗

                                 Who is sabotaging who? Why are you making shit up?

                                 1. cramer4next · 1790381119 · focus · HN ↗

                                    I&#x27;m not a vibe coder... Thats their claim to fame is. What are you using claude for?

                                    By chance, are at one of those depenceries with free internet in Portland?

                                    1. hardbass · 1790382485 · focus · HN ↗

                                       What do you use ai for? Is the internet faster in Epstein island where you live?

                                       1. cramer4next · 1790386904 · focus · HN ↗

                                          I dont use claude. I use Open AI for techical analysis of investment grade assets.

                                          Do you have a cat?

               2. rootusrootus · 1790361378 · focus · HN ↗

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                  1. hardbass · 1790362447 · focus · HN ↗

                     Collective will of the people cannot supersede your ownership over your business and its right to engage with anyone it wishes to free of government retaliation. The business is people. Feel free to go to a communist country if you want collective action against companies.

                     1. rootusrootus · 1790363226 · focus · HN ↗

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                        1. hardbass · 1790363441 · focus · HN ↗

                           And I think the governments reaction was driven by trump&#x27;s thuggery not any real reasons, any reasons given were after the fact. I mentioned those examples because you mentioned the collective voice of people, sometimes one needs reminded that unvarnished collective vote is not permitted to do certain things as rights of free expression and property exist, nothing more nothing less.

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