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Allow babywearing carriers on planes

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  1. cyberrock · · focus · HN ↗
    If they do then I hope there is an additional rule forcing the guardian to purchase an adjacent seat, so there's no risk of someone (me) being guilt tripped into swapping seats.
    1. buzzy_hacker · · focus · HN ↗
      This is addressed in the first paragraph of the article.

      > The FAA has one of my favorite examples of thoughtful rulemaking. They haven't banned flying with a baby on your lap, because the extra cost would mean many parents would drive instead. Since driving is far less safe than flying, a ban would lead to more deaths. I'd love to see more of this "all things considered" thinking around bans.

      1. tsunamifury · · focus · HN ↗
        This is extremely dubious logic with very bad stats.

        Vast majority of accidents happen on regular driven known routes not road trips.

        I would expect far better from the FAA.

        1. jamiek88 · · focus · HN ↗
          Most accidents happen close to home because most driving happens close to home it says nothing of the risk of road trips - I expect better from HN commenters.
          1. tsunamifury · · focus · HN ↗
            Per mile. Come on.
            1. vigilantpuma · · focus · HN ↗
              Vast majority on a per mile basis? Do you have a citation for that?
              1. tsunamifury · · focus · HN ↗
                Yes both NTSB, Society of pediatrics and DOT have published specifically here on how the FAAs math is total garbage.
                1. vigilantpuma · · focus · HN ↗
                  That’s not a citation on “ Vast majority of accidents [on a per mile basis] happen on regular driven known routes not road trips.”
                  1. tsunamifury · · focus · HN ↗
                    Don’t be a r**. The entire argument is built on this data from DOT. This is very well known.
                    1. vigilantpuma · · focus · HN ↗
                      I have no idea what a “r*” is. You’re making claims that aren’t backed up by anything and resorting to insults when asked for an actual citation.

                      The data doesn’t support the claim that the vast majority of accidents on a per mile basis occur while driving close to home rather than on road trips. The DOT also appears to have published on the side of “replacing air travel with driving will result in an increase of fatalities,” [1] so you’re not even right about your other claim.

                      “It is known” is not a good basis of argumentation.

                      [1] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.govinfo.gov&#x2F;content&#x2F;pkg&#x2F;FR-2005-08-26&#x2F;pdf&#x2F;05-16783.pdf" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.govinfo.gov&#x2F;content&#x2F;pkg&#x2F;FR-2005-08-26&#x2F;pdf&#x2F;05-167...

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