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Dutch governments builds alternative for Microsoft based on NixOS

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ricardobeat · 1790328018 · focus · HN ↗
A note to the developers in the project, if anyone is reading: your repositories are in violation of the new Codeberg policy that forbids AI-generated code [1].
[1] <a href="https://blog.codeberg.org/protecting-our-floss-commons-from-llms.html" rel="nofollow">https://blog.codeberg.org/protecting-our-floss-commons-from-...
1. schnebbau · 1790329248 · focus · HN ↗
  Codeberg are going to have issues in the future when all code is AI generated (except for artisanal code of course, written for the love of the craft but not to achieve anything of merit).
  1. applfanboysbgon · 1790330314 · focus · HN ↗
    Policies are enacted for current reality, not fantasy futures. If your magical fantasy becomes reality (it won't), they can just... change their policy. Of course, you aren't thinking about practical effects of policies on platforms, only on how it's an insult to your LLM-bro way of life.
    schnebbau · 1790330543 · focus · HN ↗
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    gspr · 1790340853 · focus · HN ↗
    You sound exactly like the cryptobros of yore. Just stop.
    If you're right, the evidence will bear that out. Stop evangelizing. It's insufferable. And it's paradoxical that so many who believe this technology to be absolutely world-changing also feel that the technology needs to be pushed onto people actively. It reminds me of religious people ("my god is all-powerful, but if you meaningless mortal insult him he'll be mightily upset").
    gmueckl · 1790342783 · focus · HN ↗
    I also hate preachy sermons about new tech with a deep passion and that transfers somewhat to the tech they preach about.
    Despite this, there is a reality that LLMs for coding can create pretty decent results fast. There is something real and usable hidden in all that mess. It's like the dot com bubble in some ways: the bubble died with all the overhyped "x on the web" BS that had no real substance, but the web itself stayed. This time around, LLMs and agents will stick around as tools, but the hype will likely die a loud, messy death.
    gspr · 1790344444 · focus · HN ↗
    Sure. But HN these days is the epitome of "x but on the web" in the AI era. It's insufferable!
    applfanboysbgon · 1790353235 · focus · HN ↗
    Nobody here is saying otherwise. The Codeberg policy in question does not forbid LLM-assistance outright; their policy is targeted towards unmitigated slop. Even myself, as I argue heatedly against the religious adherents, not only use LLMs daily but work for a very successful LLM startup developing and selling LLMs-as-tools. That does not make the people who won't shut the fuck up about LLMs-as-gods any less infuriating.
    schnebbau · 1790356375 · focus · HN ↗
    This is nothing like crypto. Crypto never got beyond the bros. It was never used seriously in the real world beyond the concepts attempting to pierce the veil.
    Almost every dev I know is already using AI to some capacity.
    This is like telling Henry Ford he's getting too excited about his cars after he'd already sold a million and with no slowdown in sight.
    What a miserable way to think. I implore you to keep this sort of advice to yourself.

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