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International observers to investigate Swedish election fraud

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hagbard_c · 1790290449 · focus · HN ↗
Yes, well, good I say. Here's an article - in Swedish - which gives some insight in what happened:
<a href="https://ledarsidorna.se/klanerna-valjer-partier/" rel="nofollow">https://ledarsidorna.se/klanerna-valjer-partier/
The title is "Clans choose parties":
When the Somali form of parliamentarism meets the Swedish electoral system, both friction and synergies arise. It was not the communist party's election committees or voters who elected their candidates or members. It was the Somali clan logic, parliamentary tradition and electoral college which decided which Swedish parties would become platforms to channel their representatives.
The article is written by Johan Westerholm, he used to work for the Swedish state foreign aid organisation SIDA and as such has a lot of experience in these matters.
[ also posted in the other thread, here for completeness' sake ]
1. maxxen · 1790291478 · focus · HN ↗
  Ledarsidorna is an alt-right blog, not a serious news source.
  1. Leonard_of_Q · 1790295689 · focus · HN ↗
    Did you read the article and follow the sources? If not, why not? Also, why spout nonsense about this being an 'alt-right blog'? Westerholm is a 'betongsosse', an old-style social democrat. Are they 'alt-right' just because they don't do identity politics?
    ImPostingOnHN · 1790298805 · focus · HN ↗
    > Are they 'alt-right' just because they don't do identity politics?
    The entire linked post is identity politics.
    hagbard_c · 1790321527 · focus · HN ↗
    The entire post is evidence for foreign - Here Somalian - influence in the Swedish voting process with sources provided. Opposing identity politics is not 'identity politics'.
    ImPostingOnHN · 1790344225 · focus · HN ↗
    Reducing politics to an identity-based thing (like stereotyping people's politics based on their race or national origin) is literally what identity politics is. Opposing identity politics would be talking policy without bringing people's identities into it, or ascribing people's politics solely to their identity.
    "They're not like us" is identity politics.
    "They voted differently than us because of their identity" is identity politics.
    Sorry friend, it seems you love engaging in identity politics, otherwise your political positions would not be gripes based entirely on people's identity. Your post is like claiming you don't discriminate based on skin color, then in the same breath, saying that people of a particular skin color are bad.
    Leonard_of_Q · 1790345074 · focus · HN ↗
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    Leonard_of_Q · 1790340775 · focus · HN ↗
    Oh you craving down-voting cowards, afraid of anything which disproves your narrative. Speak up instead of pressing that stupid button, let us know what you think and why what I said is wrong if you can.
    You certainly don't need to agree with me or anyone else, you have as much right to an opinion as anyone else but hiding behind that button just to try to hide a dissenting opinion just proves you're on thin ice. Use that button for things which are clearly beyond the pale, and/or violate the board rules, use your voice to show disagreement.

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