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1. boredatoms · 1790270522 · focus · HN ↗

   The US needs to get over this whole ‘punishment’ view of prison. It either a social-safety quarantine, or a rehabilitation

   1. mrits · 1790270740 · focus · HN ↗

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      1. janosik91 · 1790272202 · focus · HN ↗

         No. It&#x27;s resocialization. &gt; Norway has one of the lowest recidivism rates in the world at 20%. The U.S. has one of the highest: 76.6% <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;harvardpolitics.com&#x2F;recidivism-american-progress&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;harvardpolitics.com&#x2F;recidivism-american-progress&#x2F;

         And as you probably know, prisons in those two countries are not alike.

         1. vidarh · 1790274583 · focus · HN ↗

            Norway actually used to have prisons modelled built on the so-called Philadelphia model [1] with strict isolation. Unsurprisingly it didn&#x27;t work very well.

            It was also one of the prisons that eventually helped drive public opinion away from US-style prisons as punishment because of how extreme it was (recognised also in a 1&#x2F;3 reduction in sentences if you served there...). It was closed in 1970, around the time when the Nordic movements towards criminal custody reform started really gaining traction.

            [1] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Botsfengselet" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Botsfengselet but the Norwegian page is far more extensive: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;no.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Botsfengselet" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;no.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Botsfengselet

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