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1. QuercusMax · 1790267978 · focus · HN ↗

   I don't understand why Texas voters support such inhumane conditions. All these "Christians" who support this kind of cruel punishment need to have a "come to Jesus" moment, literally.

   1. sfiganio · 1790270145 · focus · HN ↗

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      1. NoMoreNicksLeft · 1790270529 · focus · HN ↗

         >People are cruel to prisoners because they enjoy being cruel to prisoners

         I don't enjoy being cruel to convicted criminals. I would much prefer they not commit crime, and that there be no need for the punishment.

         >especially given that free will is inconceivable;

         I too, have no free will in the matter. I am just a clockwork mechanism, operating as the random universe has not only ordained, but I cannot operate otherwise. Coincidentally, the nature of my mechanism makes me immune to your arguments, and no change in behavior is forthcoming. Fun, huh?

         >mass incarceration and poor prison conditions seem to increase crime

         Statistics say otherwise. Crime is down across the board the last few decades.

         >If we are to have prisons, let's be honest about why they exist: people like them.

         I agree. I like criminals being locked away from the rest of us.

         1. Glemmlko · 1790271646 · focus · HN ↗

            Ah yes the what-aboutism statistics?

            So why is europe doing it different and overall better/cheaper? Because europe actually tries to help people

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