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Starlink ground station in Poland hit by fire in suspected arson attack

183 points · 182 comments · giuliomagnifico

  1. Shank · · focus · HN ↗
    It feels like it’s very, very risky territory for these activities to be “occurring” in a NATO country. I’m sure everyone else is thinking the same thing, but at what point does Article 5 get invoked?
    1. Kinrany · · focus · HN ↗
      Undermining article 5 is the goal, so NATO needs to figure out how to invoke it gradually.

      One thought is to pretend to not know that it's Russia, and invoke it against an "unidentified adversary".

      1. petcat · · focus · HN ↗
        Nobody actually wants to invoke Article 5. The European countries talk a lot, but they don't actually want to do anything serious.

        Macron famously said that he would "have to send troops to Odesa" and yet 3 years later there are still no French troops in Ukraine and Russia has captured even more territory and is now actively bombarding Kyiv.

        The reality is that, despite their public statements and posture, every leader in the EU secretly hopes USA can broker a peace deal and this all just kinda goes away.

        1. baal80spam · · focus · HN ↗
          > The reality is that, despite their public statements and posture, every leader in the EU secretly hopes USA can broker a peace deal and this all just kinda goes away.

          100% agree.

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