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1. slowin · 1790209204 · focus · HN ↗

   I had an Oculus Quest and it was a really great device. After the "Meta" rebrand, the quality rapidly decreased and now it wants me to upload my ID to Meta to keep using it. Absolutely not! Zuckerberg already has way too much information on me, uploading my state issued identification to them is such an insane ask, I will never do it. While this looks like interesting hardware, the company behind it has unacceptable and user-hostile practices, so I'll pass.

   1. ewild · 1790209908 · focus · HN ↗

      oculus didnt ship a single product not owned by facebook.

      1. guiambros · 1790212230 · focus · HN ↗

         Owner of DK2 here, well before Facebook acquisition. It was for developers, but it was a shipped product nonetheless.

         1. benatkin · 1790213136 · focus · HN ↗

            Not really. Pre-release baked into the name.

            1. croes · 1790215193 · focus · HN ↗

               Sold for a full price, so it’s a sold product.

               1. benatkin · 1790216176 · focus · HN ↗

                  It wasn't though, a full price would have been more, to cover not just components and assembly but the cost of R&D.

                  1. joemi · 1790216439 · focus · HN ↗

                     Game console dev kits usually cost more than the consoles they're for, not less. They're not mass produced at the scale that the consoles are, and they're sold or leased to companies expecting to make several orders of magnitude more back off the products they create with the dev kits.

                     1. benatkin · 1790217671 · focus · HN ↗

                        That isn't a very direct comparison of Oculus products to game consoles like PlayStation, Nintendo, XBox, or those in the distant past.

                        1. joemi · 1790219455 · focus · HN ↗

                           There's at least one way where there's a direct comparison: they both have dev kits.
               2. joemi · 1790216219 · focus · HN ↗

                  Game console dev kits are typically _more_ expensive than the consoles they're for. So "full price" isn't a good argument. (The fact that they were available to the public is a stronger argument.)
               3. serf · 1790216296 · focus · HN ↗

                  i've never had the luxury of buying a cheaper dev kit. Ever.

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