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Toyota is taking the Corolla electric

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  1. apparent · · focus · HN ↗
    I was surprised to read the headline because this is going in a different direction than most car companies. For example, VW, Ford, GM, and others have been axing electric vehicles that they started selling a few years ago. They discovered that most people who wanted EVs had already purchased them, and the rest of the market wasn't interested enough to pay the price premium.

    Then I read the key quote and realized that Toyota isn't transforming the Corolla into an electric vehicle. They're simply going to offer an electric option. That's much less of an interesting headline, which explains why it wasn't chosen.

    > “Whether it’s a battery EV, plug-in hybrid, hybrid, or internal combustion engine vehicle―whatever the power source―let’s make good-looking cars that everyone will want to drive!” Toyota’s CEO said at the Japan Mobility Show.

    1. gonzalohm · · focus · HN ↗
      I think the problem is not that people don't want electric cars. The problem is that people don't have a place to plug the car at home.
      1. stetrain · · focus · HN ↗
        I think the US is still pretty far from saturating the potential market of garage-owning car buyers with EVs, but that is a major hurdle for people who rent or street park and might be interested in saving gas money.
        1. TedDoesntTalk · · focus · HN ↗
          My electric panel is full. If I want to add an EV charger to my garage, I first have to replace the electric panel with a larger one. That’s minimum $5000 before I even get to the EV charger.
          1. stetrain · · focus · HN ↗
            There are potentially options that could work for you, including:

            1) Just charge from an existing 120V outlet. If you average under 50 miles of driving per day this might work just fine.

            2) Reshuffle existing circuits to get even a 20A 240V circuit for charging. This provides more that double the charging you can get from a 15A 120V outlet and may be possible by combining some existing circuits with tandem breakers. A lot of electricians will just quote you on going straight to a 50A or 60A circuit, but most chargers are configurable to lower levels and it can save you a lot of money to stick to a smaller circuit.

            3) Share a circuit with a dryer using a device that automatically switches power off to the car while the dryer is running, there are a few brands of these.

            4) Get an EV charger that supports load management, using a current sensor on your main breaker. These can dynamically adjust how much current the car draws to avoid exceeding the max current of your panel.

            5) Electric meter socket adapter, these connect under your electric meter and provides an EV charging port that doesn't go through your household panel at all.

            1. rootusrootus · · focus · HN ↗
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