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  1. inferniac · · focus · HN ↗
    Just dumb.

    DHH is way past fuck you money, he does what he wants, you can hate / like it as much as you want, but claiming some grand conspiracy to get people to use more AI??? Just dumb.

    1. copperx · · focus · HN ↗
      If DHH believes so much in his distro, why doesn't he put a few million of his own in it, like Shuttleworth did with Ubuntu? Why does he need a GoFundMe for his hobby?
      1. VPenkov · · focus · HN ↗
        I believe he did contribute $1 million initially [1]

        [1] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;omarchy.org&#x2F;news&#x2F;2026&#x2F;08&#x2F;omacom-foundation-launches-with-8-million&#x2F;#:~:text=cofounder%20of%20TapTap-,Yours%20truly,-These%20Founding%20Corporate" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;omarchy.org&#x2F;news&#x2F;2026&#x2F;08&#x2F;omacom-foundation-launches-...

  2. Gigachad · · focus · HN ↗
    It exists because DHH needs his safe space where he can post racist rants without getting banned
    1. j45 · · focus · HN ↗
      While building on top of open source that was contributed to by enough people who didn&#x27;t look like him.
      1. copperx · · focus · HN ↗
        I want a bumper sticker that says &quot;I bought into Rails before DHH went insane&quot;.
    2. TiredOfLife · · focus · HN ↗
      Can you point to where in omarchy are his racist rants?
  3. MadPony · · focus · HN ↗
    Omarchy&#x27;s definitely been polarizing. I&#x27;ve been using it since the first release and its been my daily driver for the last few months. Folks can say what they want about DHH and argue that Omarchy is just dot files... but hot damn if it doesn&#x27;t give me the breath of fresh air I needed from the Apple ecosystem. I&#x27;ve always loved Linux, but could never stick around. I didn&#x27;t have the patience for the constant tweaking or trying to figure out how to properly scale display resolution. Omarchy offers some great convention out of the box and is being worked on by a passionate group of people. That&#x27;s part of what has made the internet great. We&#x27;re in a new era, why not have a little fun with it?
    1. AuthAuth · · focus · HN ↗
      People are having fun with linux. The stain on Omarchy is purely DHH. His politics cannot be ignored.
      1. Klonoar · · focus · HN ↗
        If your issue with Omarchy is politics, then it&#x27;s probably not just DHH.

        But I&#x27;m going to guess that means you haven&#x27;t actually looked into it deeply.

      2. wmf · · focus · HN ↗
        Putting politics aside, Omarchy contains a ton of bad technical decisions. I also question the non-discoverable UX but I realize that&#x27;s subjective.
        1. AuthAuth · · focus · HN ↗
          It doesnt contain technical decisions its just configs on top of arch vibe coded by a racist.
    2. j45 · · focus · HN ↗
      If by &quot;people can say what they want&quot; means some people are ok to dismiss casual racism because it doesn&#x27;t affect them and they can enjoy the fruits, so be it.

      I tried it out and it has some interesting perks, but will ultimately suffer from a smaller community.

      We know how much rails suffered before it had to grow up and scale, instead of &quot;just buy more servers&quot;. This doesn&#x27;t mean it&#x27;s wrong, or right, only that it&#x27;s not universal.

      My guess is omarchy outright, or some of it&#x27;s experience will transfer to other distros.

      And I finally got an intro to ArchLinux where I got to spend more time using instead of tinkering. I value building more than tinkering or sys admining even if I know how to do it.

      1. j45 · · focus · HN ↗
        It&#x27;s ok to downvote this, doesn&#x27;t mean it has to be comfortable to have some chats, it&#x27;s where we all can learn by starting with ourselves.
    3. spongebobstoes · · focus · HN ↗
      idk who DHH is and I don&#x27;t know (or care) what their opinions are

      Omarchy is a free OS, and it looks very interesting

      I don&#x27;t think it&#x27;s wrong to avoid it because of DHH&#x27;s opinions, but I don&#x27;t think it&#x27;s right to either

    4. nvme0n1p1 · · focus · HN ↗
      Having fun alone in your homelab is one thing. But encouraging others to use the thing you made, despite the systematic lack of attention to security, is quite another. I don&#x27;t want YouTube video titles to have arbitrary code execution on my machine and I&#x27;m not sure why anyone would.

      Though if it really is an OS dedicated to AI, as the article says, maybe the vibe coded security holes are what give it a reason to exist at all.

  4. j45 · · focus · HN ↗
    Omarchy is interesting, not for tokenmaxxing, but that&#x27;s it&#x27;s just easier to work between whatever steps you are working between AI, and not, and browsers.

    I realize that&#x27;s the window manager, but being up and running on a ready to go setup in 10 minutes is something neat too that I hope can become an option for other distors.

  5. rvz · · focus · HN ↗
    Omarchy just looks cool, maybe that&#x27;s why it got funding.
  6. Brett_Riverboat · · focus · HN ↗
    Why omarchy exists; so a dumb racist script kiddie can pretend to be a big boy.
    1. hobonation · · focus · HN ↗

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  7. CodingJeebus · · focus · HN ↗
    Omarchy exists because there&#x27;s a real demand for a power user OS that&#x27;s not controlled by Apple and Microsoft. Windows sucks and MacOS now occupies an extra 18GB or something crazy for their internal models that&#x27;s not an opt-out.
    1. curuinor · · focus · HN ↗
      that&#x27;s just... normal linux. you can have any damn linux distro for that
  8. kennywinker · · focus · HN ↗
    After using omarchy for almost a year, and every time I mentioned it people dogpiling about how it&#x27;s just a bunch of config files not an OS - I tested that idea. Turns out they&#x27;re pretty much right. Fedora + hyprland + a little messing around with config files to get the shortcuts I&#x27;d become familiar with back = about 95% of omarchy. Glad to be rid of any link to DHH, and happy to have a deeper understanding of what comprises my desktop environment. 10&#x2F;10 would recommend.
    1. fl4regun · · focus · HN ↗
      this is kinda true but a lot of distros are like this. If I installed debian and hyprland i&#x27;d basically be able to set up the same config as i have on arch now. Linux distros are basically just pick which package manager you like + whatever config you think is closest to what you want
      1. kennywinker · · focus · HN ↗
        Absolutely, but the amount of embodied work in arch or debian or fedora is massive, but i got from fedora to almost-omarchy in an evening.

        It’s clear from their repos that lots of work goes into omarchy, it just turns out that’s not work that i need - or it’s work that’s already part of a more user friendly distro like fedora.

        1. Gigachad · · focus · HN ↗
          I wouldn&#x27;t confuse a lot of commits with a lot of work. Their dot files are heavily vibecoded and have been a constant stream of security issues.
    2. copperx · · focus · HN ↗
      If Omarchy turns into something good, I&#x27;ll wait for the de-Hitlerized fork.
    3. jr3592 · · focus · HN ↗
      whats your gripe with DHH? Honest question.
      1. bryanlarsen · · focus · HN ↗
        I&#x27;ll let you judge for yourself. This is just one post of his among many similar. <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;world.hey.com&#x2F;dhh&#x2F;wolves-sheep-and-gypsies-ba44af6a" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;world.hey.com&#x2F;dhh&#x2F;wolves-sheep-and-gypsies-ba44af6a
        1. arcanemachiner · · focus · HN ↗
          I&#x27;m supposed to hate this guy because he doesn&#x27;t want his town to be littered with homeless people?
        2. witten · · focus · HN ↗
          And in case you don&#x27;t want to judge for yourself: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;drewdevault.com&#x2F;weird-guys&#x2F;#dhh" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;drewdevault.com&#x2F;weird-guys&#x2F;#dhh
        3. happytoexplain · · focus · HN ↗
          This doesn&#x27;t seem like a crazy take. The situation is horrible, but the reaction to the situation is hard to demonize from a humanistic point of view. This isn&#x27;t rich assholes complaining about the homeless sleeping on benches in NYC. It&#x27;s a dramatic crisis perpetuated by people who are not, largely, mentally ill in the sense that some homeless people are.
          1. kennywinker · · focus · HN ↗
            Starting off with an analogy about shooting wolves frames things in a decidedly violent way that makes me uncomfortable. I would not, ever, compare a group of humans with a group of animals that i am advocating for culling. I know enough history to know who does that.

            &gt; The vagrants are literally shitting in the bushes

            This is a simple failure of civics. If you have people somewhere, you provide them toilets or you get shit on the ground. Cities do it when festivals and street parties happen - but they don&#x27;t do it when homeless poeple show up, and then they spin it as disgusting behaviour on the part of the people. Everybody shits. If you had no access to a toilet, or place to dispose of your shit, you would shit on the street or in the bushes too. Fixating on shit is also an attempt to rile up your disgust reaction, and link it to a group of people.

            &gt; Partly because it didn&#x27;t tolerate vagrants and homeless people taking over public spaces (as has happened in so many American cities)

            A leading lie. American cities have problems with public homelessness because they have no social safety net, and an economy that drives up homelessness. Crackdowns, like my city has done, only spreads the problem out and makes providing services like toilets impossible. It wasn&#x27;t as bad before not because it &quot;wasn&#x27;t tolerated&quot; but because the economic conditions were less harsh in the postwar era.

            &gt; You have to act. You have to protect the sheep. Standing idly by while your livestock is devoured by predators or your neighborhood is taken over by migrants is a pathetic abdication of any functioning society&#x27;s most basic duty to its citizens.

            This is a straight up fascist mentality. Us vs them. Protect our weak from their strong. It leads VERY dark places. Ask yourself this - why are the wolves the migrants? Could you not just as easily frame them as the sheep in need of protecting? Have they not been abandoned and pushed out by society? Without a barn to sleep in, the sheep will wander where they aren&#x27;t welcome - is that the sheep&#x27;s fault, or the shepherd&#x27;s?

            1. jr3592 · · focus · HN ↗
              &gt; If you have people somewhere, you provide them toilets or you get shit on the ground.

              I have no idea if you&#x27;ve traveled much, but this has not been my experience traveling throughout major cities in Europe.

              There&#x27;s often NOT public bathrooms ANYWHERE yet streets are much cleaner than somewhere like San Francisco, where there actually are some public bathrooms.

              1. kennywinker · · focus · HN ↗
                Homeless population of paris: 4k-5k

                Homeless population of sf: 8k

                Area of paris: 2,824.2 km2 (urban), 18,940.7 km2 (metro)

                Area of sf: 600.65 km2 (city and county)

                Homeless density of sf: 8000 people &#x2F; 600km2 = 13.3 people per km2

                Homeless density of paris (urban): 4500 people &#x2F; 2824 km2(urban) = 1.6 people per km2

                Homeless density of paris (metro): 4500 people &#x2F; 18941 km2(metro) = 0.24 people per km2

                Hmm... I wonder if that might have an impact?

            2. happytoexplain · · focus · HN ↗
              Absolutely. I agree with 90% of what you&#x27;re saying. The responsibility of civics, the dark implications of the animal analogy, etc. But I don&#x27;t think what he is saying is so unreasonable, considering the catastrophe to which he is reacting, as to warrant an attitude of &quot;demonize everything he does, even unrelated software projects&quot; (yet).

              Essentially I feel the same way as him (I wouldn&#x27;t write about it in the same menacing way, but I feel the same way). There are multiple catastrophic culture clashes going on across the western world. It&#x27;s a real, serious, hysterical crisis. We need to address it as humanely as possible.

              As long as the suggestions remain similar to things like &quot;enable them to stop the disruption on their own&quot;, &quot;forcefully but lawfully stop the behavior&quot;, or &quot;move them&quot;, then I have a hard time not at least sympathizing. Until the suggestions escalate to &quot;kill them&quot;, then I don&#x27;t believe we have crossed the line into absolutely indefensible territory.

              It&#x27;s tempting to portray what he is saying as &quot;kill them&quot; (since that&#x27;s the obvious analogy with wolves), but it&#x27;s simply not the case in reality. He is using a dramatic analogy, but not suggesting murder.

              I also don&#x27;t believe in rhetorical analogies. They are a distraction. I&#x27;m not interested in extrapolating the wolf analogy from his post, to your post, and beyond. It&#x27;s dumb, frankly (not on your part - on his).

          2. fl4regun · · focus · HN ↗
            it only seems not-crazy if you also accept the implication &quot;gypsys COULD live in housing like all of us normal people, but instead choose to live in parks and shit in bushes&quot; - instead of framing it as a failure of housing policy or mental health, its being made a personal (moral) failure of individuals. That&#x27;s the gross part.
      2. kennywinker · · focus · HN ↗
        Before i had come across any of the racism and incipient fascism he’s spouted online, I was already kinda annoyed by how AI-forward omarchy is. A huge part of moving to linux from macOS is not wanting ai crap shoved down my throat. Omarchy doesn’t shove, but it sure does offer it up all over the place
        1. jr3592 · · focus · HN ↗
          was totally unaware of any racism of fascism from him... thats surprising.
  9. zorobo · · focus · HN ↗
    Tried it on my 2010 iMac. Works like a charm, interesting setup and ui choices. Not sure I’ll stick with it but I’m impressed.
  10. aslkj-q23 · · focus · HN ↗
    Lex Fridman is still shilling for AI? I remember his interview with Hassabis where he depicted Hassabis as the good guy and both were very, very concerned. Very concerned indeed.

    The DHH episode is literally sponsored by Shopify:

    <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;lexfridman.com&#x2F;sponsors&#x2F;ep501-sa" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;lexfridman.com&#x2F;sponsors&#x2F;ep501-sa

    On the bright side, this is the best and most honest sponsor disclosure I have ever seen!

  11. bluerooibos · · focus · HN ↗
    Let me guess, is the reason money?
  12. hakunin · · focus · HN ↗
    I&#x27;m not going to comment on DHH himself here (huge mixed feelings on many levels), but people completely underestimate the power of curated experience.

    If there was a piece of software that needed 3 colors set, and there was a choice to set the 3 colors yourself, or pick a color preset that some person spent time combining just right, a lot of people would appreciate the latter.

    Sitting and making subjective taste-based considerations is a huge energy and time sink, and takes a certain kind of individual to actually enjoy. Even if you did take time on one thing, you still hope that you don&#x27;t have to do that on others. Having somebody sweat these details for you, so your baseline is strong, is a lot of value in practice, because we&#x27;re human and we like nice things, and knowing that even if we don&#x27;t customize it, somebody already did with great care.

    Why even listen to premade music. You can just throw together samples&#x2F;notes yourself. Why listen to lyrics&#x2F;poems, you can just put together some words yourself. Why hire an interior designer. You can just make it the way you like yourself. Etc.

    1. wmf · · focus · HN ↗
      Ubuntu was curated by Mark Shuttleworth for years. GNOME OS and KDE Linux are also fairly curated. It&#x27;s not clear that DHH&#x27;s curation of Omarchy actually created a better distro.
      1. jdoliner · · focus · HN ↗
        This is a good thread about why it didn&#x27;t work: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;x.com&#x2F;dvdsgl&#x2F;status&#x2F;2096775107989672007" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;x.com&#x2F;dvdsgl&#x2F;status&#x2F;2096775107989672007
        1. chambers · · focus · HN ↗
          +1 thanks for the thread
    2. bananaquant · · focus · HN ↗
      &gt; Sitting and making subjective taste-based considerations is a huge energy and time sink, and takes a certain kind of individual to actually enjoy.

      I would gently disagree. There are hundreds people on reddit who spend inordinate time to rice their desktop and share their dotfiles. They just haven&#x27;t previously written their name all over a few prominent online projects to then market what they&#x27;ve done as a distro and solicit multimillion dollar donations with a straight face.

      1. neko_ranger · · focus · HN ↗
        &gt;hundreds people on reddit

        compare that to the billions who just use computer

      2. hakunin · · focus · HN ↗
        Just like you’d be reluctant to pull in any non-trivial dependency that has 2 GitHub stars and barely any activity, or a distro created one time by a reddit guy, there is value in big name and multimillion dollar donations supporting your dependency.
      3. dilipm1 · · focus · HN ↗
        I dont understand the ad nauseam argument of &quot;its just someones .dot files&quot;. 1. Omarchy now has its own Kernel now Omarchy 4.0.4-1 - Linux 7.2.5-3-omarchy. 2. Has its own package repository. 3. AUR is not its default repository. 4. Cloudfare as its CDN 5. Solid new team hiring wrt security, infrasturcture and kernel.

        If its not a distribution, what is it then?

        1. bananaquant · · focus · HN ↗
          It also has people paid to promote it. Despite you being an account that is 1 hour old, I will reply substantively.

          Just because you can recompile a kernel following someone else&#x27;s recipe doesn&#x27;t mean that you understand how to configure one yourself, much less how it works. Regarding security, just a month ago any Omarchy user who understood how the `docker` group works could escalate to root without a password.

          What I&#x27;m trying to say is that one cannot buy the technical competence. Working on medium-complexity web apps and doing system development are two very different things. So far, Omarchy has been amateur hour when it comes to the latter.

          1. hakunin · · focus · HN ↗
            I find myself in a weird position to defend Omarchy as a person who doesn&#x27;t use Omarchy and doesn&#x27;t agree with DHH (including public rebuttals on twitter).

            &gt; one cannot buy the technical competence

            The most charitable interpretation here is &quot;just by paying for AI tokens, you don&#x27;t get smarter&quot;, with which I would agree. And yet your full comment seems to suggest that there&#x27;s no way to buy technical competence in general.

            But Omarchy is literally buying it[1]. And so does every business that pays tech employees.

            [1]: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;omarchy.org&#x2F;teams&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;omarchy.org&#x2F;teams&#x2F;

    3. enderkus · · focus · HN ↗

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  13. dzhiurgis · · focus · HN ↗
    Thanks for convincing to try omarchy on my old macbook.

    p.s. do left not realize how this guilty-by-association public-lynching is damaging their brand?

    1. kennywinker · · focus · HN ↗
      Who is guilty by association?

      nobody is guilty for using omarchy, but why would you want to associate with someone who sucks?

      Anyway, is it left wing to be anti-racist these days? Yikes.

      1. archagon · · focus · HN ↗
        &gt; Anyway, is it left wing to be anti-racist these days? Yikes.

        Unfortunately, on this site, being against white supremacy is treated as some sort of aberration. Yes, it&#x27;s fucked up. No, it&#x27;s not representative of the general population (or so I dearly hope).

        1. dzhiurgis · · focus · HN ↗
          More like this site has tons of anonymous accounts that are quick to coordinate labelling and cancelling someone for something they didn&#x27;t say.

          Ask your self, how come most of VCs and tech people swung &quot;back to right&quot;. Literally all of them have been cancelled by the mob years ago. Even our darling PG has been cancelled despite vehemently protesting right.

          1. kennywinker · · focus · HN ↗
            If being scolded for things you&#x27;re not doing by anonymous accounts is enough to make you change your core beliefs, I don&#x27;t think they were core beliefs.

            &gt; even our darling PG has been cancelled

            Please, do tell - in what way has PG been cancelled? Cancellation is when you lose opportunities, funding, jobs, etc. It is not when people online repeatedly bring up something they didn&#x27;t like that you did or said.

            1. dzhiurgis · · focus · HN ↗
              He&#x27;s persona non-grata. Left media never writes about him and if they do - it&#x27;s always negative.

              Cancelling people for merely trying to open conversation (mind these aren&#x27;t some extreme ideas either) is just fucked up thing to do.

              1. kennywinker · · focus · HN ↗
                &gt; Cancelling people for merely trying to open conversation

                But you must believe there is a line, no? Sure, open conversation is good, but there are things you can say in open conversation that will make people not want to associate with you. Is that unfair? I don’t think so. Cancellation isn’t bad, imo, unless it’s unfair. Words taken out of context, distorted by mob mentality, that kind of thing. Otherwise, to me “cancellation” is just the consequences of your words and actions.

    2. MadPony · · focus · HN ↗
      I wonder the same. I&#x27;ll take my downvotes and enjoy the omarchy experience.
      1. archagon · · focus · HN ↗
        Sounds like you&#x27;ll create sockpuppets to post vapid comments instead of &quot;taking your downvotes.&quot; My, what a waste of time!
    3. witten · · focus · HN ↗
      You may want to look up the paradox of tolerance: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Paradox_of_tolerance" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Paradox_of_tolerance
      1. dzhiurgis · · focus · HN ↗
        So can we apply it to intolerant immigrants that destroy our society or tolerating that type of intolerance is ok?
        1. witten · · focus · HN ↗
          Your bigotry is not welcome here.
          1. dzhiurgis · · focus · HN ↗
            I&#x27;m an intolerant immigrant myself, so jokes on you.
    4. throw28373w · · focus · HN ↗
      It&#x27;s as silly as the &quot;Boycott Made in China&quot; people.

      Just damages their brand.

    5. archagon · · focus · HN ↗
      &gt; p.s. do left not realize how this guilty-by-association public-lynching is damaging their brand?

      Maybe to you, but in general, being against gutter racism is broadly very popular. Sir, you are in a bubble.

      (And maybe read up a bit on what lynching was like before throwing the term around so casually.)

  14. rwz · · focus · HN ↗
    I don&#x27;t get it, the post makes a bunch of weird insinuations and then proceeds to just end without actually answering the question.
    1. happytoexplain · · focus · HN ↗
      Yes, I&#x27;m baffled that more commenters aren&#x27;t confused by this. Even with the full context of the drama surrounding DHH, I still have no clue what the author is trying to imply, or why they feel the need to imply it instead of stating it.

      It&#x27;s especially bizarre because they start off saying &quot;Thank me, I just listened to a 5 hour interview with DHH so you don’t have to,&quot; and then they don&#x27;t say anything at all.

      1. shevy-java · · focus · HN ↗
        I agree that the article is quite short, but it is not true that the article said nothing at all.

        For instance, the article quite clearly makes a connection between money being pumped into Omarchy. This in turn points to the possibility that Omarchy is a Big Bro project. Another connection made is that this will be used to maximize costly token sales. Now - the author does not provide strong statements on the latter, but the former is already known. Look at the &quot;donors&quot; and &quot;sponsors&quot;. Tell me this has zero influence? We could already see this before with shopify, and DHH is part of that group. Look how much influence they bought in ruby; see how developers got whacked out of ruby due to that, who then built <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;gem.coop&#x2F;about&#x2F;faq&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;gem.coop&#x2F;about&#x2F;faq&#x2F;. There is definitely an influence via money - there is no denying that.

        As for not having much to say about a five hours interview - well. That could be the fault of the author. Or perhaps DHH does not have anything substantially to say for five hours. Who knows. I don&#x27;t think I can afford 5 hours of my life having to listen to DHH ever since his &quot;I hate wolves and hobos!&quot; entry: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;world.hey.com&#x2F;dhh&#x2F;wolves-sheep-and-gypsies-ba44af6a" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;world.hey.com&#x2F;dhh&#x2F;wolves-sheep-and-gypsies-ba44af6a

        1. dilipm1 · · focus · HN ↗
          I tired Omarchy before I judge it. Also listened to the 5 hours podcast in a period of 10 days, consuming it each day on the way to work. Skipped some parts. So, I installed Omarchy on my Thinkpad T14 T1 Gen 2021 laptop and maaan I love this OS. I read that article you were mentioning about wolves and hobos! All I understood was this so called guy named DHH loves Copenhagen and wants that city no to smell like shit, and wants homeless guys to go live in a shelters. Whats wrong with that? Anyway, Omarchy has its own kernel, own repo with Cloudfare CDN, safe from AUR packages and an awesome team around it. More people move to linux better right? Year of the linux desktop, right? All this OS is doing is that. I hope it continues. Please do try it, ignore this man DHHs politics, for example just like I ignored Bill Clintons white house fiasco.
          1. bananaquant · · focus · HN ↗
            &gt; More people move to linux better right? Year of the linux desktop, right? All this OS is doing is that. I hope it continues.

            That&#x27;s not all it does. It pumps a lot of money to distort the OSS ecosystem, but most of it will never get to people actually building things. So far, users got an unfinished fork of Arch and hysterical astroturfing of Hacker News and Youtube just like your posts.

            This is not a great start. In a year or two, what will remain of all of it? DHH drops the act and starts calling for ethnic cleansings even more openly? Omacom drops the charade and converts into a proper for-profit entity?

    2. dilipm1 · · focus · HN ↗
      The author is probably is saying - &quot;Rich people&#x27;s passions are always sinister and ulterior motive is to make more money&quot;
      1. shevy-java · · focus · HN ↗
        Some rich people are definitely shady.

        I do not read in the article how he said all of them are always sinister. Can you quote that part?

        As for making more money: I think most rich people would like to make more money, so I don&#x27;t see the argument.

        1. dilipm1 · · focus · HN ↗
          &quot;Michael Dell too got some decent value for his donation when David praised the Dell XPS and gifted Lex one.

          I guess there’s usually a reason behind what tech-moguls say and do, even when they’re presenting themselves as the purely passionate guys.&quot;

          Whåt do you think the means by the last 2 sentences of his article? pasted the quote above again for your reference.

          1. bananaquant · · focus · HN ↗
            From what I gather, most commenters here hate both, and for valid reasons.

            It&#x27;s very simple actually. When someone comes out, repeatedly, as not having moral scruples, people stop trusting him.

            DHH being nothing more than an indefatigable hype man at this point only makes this situation more distasteful. &quot;But I, the DhH slop coded this distro, why do people hate on it?&quot; There are layers.

  15. bananaquant · · focus · HN ↗
    This blog post captures the essence of uneasy feelings I&#x27;ve had about this distro.

    It has received a lot of money, way more than necessary to bootstrap development of the actual distro. Making new useful open source tools, hiring developers, engaging in FOSS advocacy are all the things they are not doing nor planning to do.

    Instead, they just peddle influence. You pay ~$10k to a popular youtuber to promote your product. Now you can pay more money and your products will be promoted by DHH himself, for longer.

  16. dilipm1 · · focus · HN ↗
    I dont understand the ad nauseam argument of &quot;its just someones .dot files&quot;. 1. Omarchy now has its own Kernel now Omarchy 4.0.4-1 - Linux 7.2.5-3-omarchy. 2. Has its own package repository. 3. AUR is not its default repository. 4. Cloudfare as its CDN 5. Solid new team hiring wrt security, infrasturcture and kernel.

    If its not a distribution, what is it then?

  17. dilipm1 · · focus · HN ↗
    So why does it exist? What are you trying to conclude? Basically you are saying - &quot;Rich people&#x27;s passions are always sinister and ulterior motive is to make more money&quot;

    Just an opinionated piece by this author. But the difference is I like DHHs opinionated Omarchy and don&#x27;t like the authors lazy opinionated article. Thats my opinion and you HAVE to respect it!!

    1. shevy-java · · focus · HN ↗
      But that&#x27;s no counter-argument either. It reminds me of Monty Python:

      <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=TpQlyUjp3vM" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=TpQlyUjp3vM

  18. shevy-java · · focus · HN ↗
    I can&#x27;t help but shake off the feeling that too much about Omarchy is not from an objective analysis, but promo-bias. I noticed this on distrowatch recently, but also on the ruby&#x2F;rails reddit thread here:

    <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.reddit.com&#x2F;r&#x2F;rails&#x2F;comments&#x2F;1won8aq&#x2F;post_dhh_rails&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.reddit.com&#x2F;r&#x2F;rails&#x2F;comments&#x2F;1won8aq&#x2F;post_dhh_rai...

    Some of the pro-Omarchy comments are strange.

    Now - personally I have not tried Omarchy, because I have no need for it. I compile about 99% of what I do from source, via ruby scripts, and if I need something I add it, if time permits. Most of the time I stay on the terminal&#x2F;commandline and just do things there; sometimes I use the browser, editor, rarely mpv for local stuff, evince for pdf reading. I think that covers around 90% of the uses I have on linux. I have no need for a special linux distribution, having first built LFS in around 2006 or so.

    With that out of the way ... I don&#x27;t like the AI slop, so using AI slop generated distributions, is already an instant nope for me. But even aside from that, I don&#x27;t fully understand why Omarchy exists. With all the money that the big boys inject, I have a slight suspicion that this is a corporate linux project. I have no interest in that.

    Also, aside from this, ever since DHH tried to manipulate readers into connecting homeless people to shooting down wolves, is the moment I stopped caring about DHH. The guy is nuts. And if you read the above comment, it seems he finally decided to abandon ruby and rails - that would be great, but in reality it is actually not, since ruby already went into extinction decline. Matz or Hiroshi Shibata only &quot;communicating&quot; with others through AI spam slop, is also another last-entry into the coffin situation now. It&#x27;s sad. It seems as if some folks are so convinced about AI that they don&#x27;t understand that it causes a lot of damage and problems. Some noticed this, others did not. And you can not change anything here either.

    As for the linked in webpage:

    &gt; For the AI companies, David presents a strong offer: he’s building a distro from the ground up made for token maxxing.

    I can&#x27;t evaluate this, but it would make sense. The Big Bros want money and influence, so their mercenaries will do all they can to further this goal. These are the modern economic hitmen; people such as Sebastian Kurz (suddenly he is a millionaire, one of the top 100 richest folks in Austria, thanks to AI spam slop). I am sorry but I am too old to not call bullshit on any of these. The USA is basically run by a syndicate - Trump is just making this more obvious due to his dementia, but there is so much money behind that sustains criminal energy. By the way, how big was the Epstein network really? Only Ghislaine is in prison. She has organised all of this on her own? Or even with Jeffrey, two people organised all those sexy parties for the superrich? Anyway, we know with Trump in charge, we&#x27;ll never get any real answers to that.

    &gt; I guess there’s usually a reason behind what tech-moguls say and do, even when they’re presenting themselves as the purely passionate guys.

    I am glad to not be the only one distrustful about Omarchy. I bet in a few years people will be surprised how their private data &quot;accidentally&quot; leaked to the Big Bros. Thanks to Spymarchy, formerly known as Omarchy.

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