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1. dzonga · 1790195655 · focus · HN ↗

   services like door-dash are literally built on a concept of a sucker pays more. you order a meal that costs $10. total charge comes to $25. then delivery worker made $5 on that order. + the delivery worker expects a tip.

   which means the company sees both the delivery worker and the person who ordered as suckers. no wonder ride-share companies jumped onto food-delivery.

   1. sokoloff · 1790197194 · focus · HN ↗

      I don’t think paying someone to perform a service for you makes you a sucker.

      I’ve never used DoorDash (and am pretty unlikely to), but if I did, I would look at as paying someone for a service they provided rather than simply “paying more for the item” (and expecting someone to wait on me personally for free?).

      1. wat10000 · 1790197804 · focus · HN ↗

         It’s not like they hide anything about what they’re offering. They advertise service X for price Y and that’s what they deliver. Seems fine. If you don’t think Y is worth it for X then don’t use it.

         Now, the part where they use tips to offset driver pay is evil and people should be in prison for it.

         1. jamilton · 1790205117 · focus · HN ↗

            Most states allow tips to be deducted from wages down to sub-minimum wages for for most tipped workers. Which sucks to be clear, just saying it's not unique to ride-share drivers.

            1. wat10000 · 1790207406 · focus · HN ↗

               That’s bad and should be considered theft. But what DD did is even worse. They didn’t just reduce pay, they hid what they were doing and didn’t even show a tip to the driver unless the tip was more than the guaranteed pay. And they did this to the tune of over sixteen million dollars.

               1. dzhiurgis · 1790217755 · focus · HN ↗

                  > And they did this to the tune of over sixteen million dollars

                  So like $1 per driver?

                  Also it's not like the tips they earn correlate with service drivers can provide. At most you can be a bit faster, but generally bound to traffic? (I haven't used them tbh).

                  1. khriss · 1790239143 · focus · HN ↗

                     I genuinely don't understand how corporate propaganda in the US got people to get to the point where defending corporations is like a Pavlovian reflex for some people.

                     1. wat10000 · 1790252466 · focus · HN ↗

                        We’re on a forum run by the VCs who funded DoorDash. A lot of people here dream that they too can one day get funded and go on to steal millions with no consequences.

                        1. dzhiurgis · 1790291603 · focus · HN ↗

                           Nah we just don't let emotions get over the mathematics. DD does 15B in revenue. 16M is ~0.1% of that.

                           1. wat10000 · 1790299277 · focus · HN ↗

                              So theft is ok if you’re already rich?

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