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1. api · 1790180311 · focus · HN ↗

   At this point I no longer think the US can say anything about the Chinese. Yes they have a surveillance dystopia and highly entrenched state crony capitalism, but we now have exactly the same thing.

   1. I-M-S · 1790180695 · focus · HN ↗

      You don't have remotely the same thing. You don't have high-speed trains, housing that populace who don't already own real estate can afford, a government that keeps the tech-oligarchs at a short leash and who mercilessly removes corrupt officials, functional public transit, functional anything public really.

      1. [deleted] · 1790180847 · focus · HN ↗

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      2. talon8635 · 1790181217 · focus · HN ↗

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      3. clcaev · 1790181921 · focus · HN ↗

         Unfortunately, objective... independently verifiable information is not something we could confidently say is standard practice in China.

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