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1. dcrazy · 1790136398 · focus · HN ↗

   Meanwhile, the 47 Muni bus that connects the Van Ness transit corridor to Caltrain has been “suspended” since 2020, and the extension of Caltrain to the transit center is still unfunded.

   I appreciate solutions that meet us where we are, but it’s depressing that we don’t seem to actually have the will to make a sustainable, integrated mass transit plan.

   1. 8f2ab37a-ed6c · 1790136807 · focus · HN ↗

      In the Bay Area it's easier to create AGI than reliable, consistent, clean public transit.

      1. repeekad · 1790139806 · focus · HN ↗

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         1. UnfitFootprint · 1790143305 · focus · HN ↗

            Excluding the fact that drug addicts are still humans deserving love, care and the opportunity to recuperate - fostering a clean & safe transit environment is practically a solved problem internationally.

            Maybe the moral depravity of SF breeds truly irredeemable addicts, but as someone whos met a lot of troubled people and ridden a lot of public transit your statement seems alarmingly and unhelpfully critical

            1. bko · 1790157586 · focus · HN ↗

               There's nothing compassionate, loving or caring letting people kill themselves consuming hard drugs.

               1. Y-bar · 1790158032 · focus · HN ↗

                  Loving or caring for someone is not giving their addiction a Carte Blanche, it can often be to allow them access to treatment and a path out of their situation.

                  1. wallst07 · 1790162379 · focus · HN ↗

                     Walking through the tenderloin on a bad night seems like Carte Blanche to me, and it seems cruel and unusual (except maybe Philadelphia).

                     1. Geezus_42 · 1790163145 · focus · HN ↗

                        So what, put them in prison?

                        1. wallst07 · 1790199608 · focus · HN ↗

                           Is that your only idea or are you trying to be facetious?

                           SF and CA have a very liberal tax policy, maybe dedicate some of the funds to get them treatment.

                           1. Geezus_42 · 1790357404 · focus · HN ↗

                              No, I was asking what you think should be done. I have legitimately talked to many people to whom that is the answer and I find their views dispicable.
                     2. Y-bar · 1790163923 · focus · HN ↗

                        I don't know what the "tenderloin" refers to, but I guess it is a part of a US city.

                        That's generally the point I am trying to make. By letting these people suffer from addiction and homelessness, not offering good medical and social care, you are not caring or loving them, which is a kind of cruelty.

                        1. joenot443 · 1790164291 · focus · HN ↗

                           FWIW if you search "tenderloin city" the answer appears immediately.

                           It's a big internet, sometimes people will mention neighborhoods or customs you're unfamiliar with. In my experience, the polite thing is usually to take 3s to make the Google.

                           1. pirates · 1790166613 · focus · HN ↗

                              In my experience the polite thing is to just say “San Francisco” instead of talking down to people.
                           2. Y-bar · 1790166614 · focus · HN ↗

                              This is the problem with context and language and assumptions and algorithms. Even with that I get two restaurants and one Wikipedia article on meat before I get anything resembling a city district in my search results.

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